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Re:The self-hating web developer by thomasahle on Sunday July 19, 2015 @06:56AM (#9910771)
Haskell us perfectly fine to start with. It's just Haskell + zsh + git + archlinux + vim + cool-tech aren't things you should learn all at once. Heck, 12 years in, and I'm still lot fluent in all of those.

We can still tell people about cool stuff, just encourage them to take one step at a time, in their own time.

Re:The self-hating web developer by EugeneOZ on Monday July 20, 2015 @05:02AM (#9914782)
Advice to start learning programming from Haskell or Lisp or C++ is arrogance.
Re:The self-hating web developer by codygman on Monday July 20, 2015 @12:31PM (#9917150)
How so? I'd appreciate you expanding on it, as well as responding to the existence of these:

Teaching Haskell to a 10 year old[0]

Realm of Racket[1]

Land of lisp[2]

0: https://superginbaby.wordpress.com/2015/04/08/teaching-haske...

1: http://realmofracket.com/

2: http://landoflisp.com/

Re:The self-hating web developer by thomasahle on Tuesday July 21, 2015 @07:08PM (#9926537)
I know Haskell is the introductory programming language of choice at many British universities like Oxford and Cambridge. In the US C, C++ and Scheme (functional) are all in the top 6 most common ( http://cacm.acm.org/blogs/blog-cacm/176450-python-is-now-the... ) so I don't see at all why those shouldn't be good choices.
Re:The self-hating web developer by warkid on Monday July 20, 2015 @07:35AM (#9915285)
Pefectly fine I one takes full responsibility for own advice.
Re:The self-hating web developer by crimsonalucard on Sunday July 19, 2015 @10:44AM (#9911333)
Haskell may not be the wisest language to start with. It's different from almost everything out there.
Re:The self-hating web developer by codygman on Sunday July 19, 2015 @01:55PM (#9912103)
I feel learning one Algol derived language such as Python followed by Haskell is a good solution. Perhaps even better (of not more painful) would be to learn C followed by Haskell.