Re:Intellectual pursuits may buffer the brain against addiction
by CamperBob2 on Saturday July 18, 2015 @05:15PM
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One possible case in point, the mathematician's mathematician Paul Erdős, who was said to be a heavy methamphetamine user. From https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paul_Erd%C5%91s :
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Re:Intellectual pursuits may buffer the brain against addiction
by Blahah on Saturday July 18, 2015 @09:07PM
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I think what Erdos did is almost the opposite. I say this as someone who has thoroughly explored both extremes. Intellectual pursuits provide intelligent people with the stimulus they need. When they are bored, in particular when they are prevented from pursuing their intellectual activities, some drugs offer a way to squash the desperate need for stimulus. However, when there are no restrictions, some other drugs provide the opportunity to push your intellect to its limits, eschewing, temporarily, the need for sleep, sustenance or distraction, to focus on the intellectual task at hand. Very broadly speaking, depressants fulfil the first need and stimulants fulfil the second.
I can say after much exploration that the un-stimulated brain is much more interesting in the medium and long term than the (chemically) stimulated brain. But I don't know anything better than depressants for seeing you through those times when you can't think or work freely.
Re:Intellectual pursuits may buffer the brain against addiction
by DyingAdonis on Saturday July 18, 2015 @09:23PM
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"It is by will alone I set my mind in motion. It is by the Juice of Sapho that thoughts acquire speed, the lips acquire stains, the stains become a warning. It is by will alone I set my mind in motion."
Re:Intellectual pursuits may buffer the brain against addiction
by tokai on Saturday July 18, 2015 @06:14PM
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Amphetamine and methamphetamine is not the same drug.
Re:Intellectual pursuits may buffer the brain against addiction
by CamperBob2 on Saturday July 18, 2015 @06:29PM
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True, but I'm assuming he was on Desoxyn, as opposed to some low-grade diet pills.
Re:Intellectual pursuits may buffer the brain against addiction
by serf on Saturday July 18, 2015 @09:41PM
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Paul Hoffman's biography of Erdos :
"Erdös first did mathematics at the age of three, but for the last twenty-five years of his life, since the death of his mother, he put in nineteen-hour days, keeping himself fortified with 10 to 20 milligrams of Benzedrine or Ritalin, strong espresso, and caffeine tablets. "[0]
Re:Intellectual pursuits may buffer the brain against addiction
by vellum on Saturday July 18, 2015 @10:38PM
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10-20 mg of Ritalin isn't that much. The average adult with ADHD takes 20-30 mg.
Re:Intellectual pursuits may buffer the brain against addiction
by zitterbewegung on Saturday July 18, 2015 @10:00PM
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Compairing Erdos with other Mathematicians is a really bad idea. I believe he would have been an outlier without drugs. Its like comparing Lance Armstrong with other racers.
Re:Intellectual pursuits may buffer the brain against addiction
by nitrogen on Saturday July 18, 2015 @10:59PM
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Lance Armstrong also benefited from artificial performance enhancement.
Re:Intellectual pursuits may buffer the brain against addiction
by girvo on Sunday July 19, 2015 @03:49AM
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That was indeed the parents point, I believe. Armstrong was still an outlier, and the drugs allowed him to take that further. Even without them he would've been one of the best (assuming all things being equal and no one else has access either).
Re:Intellectual pursuits may buffer the brain against addiction
by kaybe on Monday July 20, 2015 @12:16PM
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Still, a mathematician improving vastly on drugs can be a net benefit for society since the work done stays. A cyclist.. I don't see it. Not that I'm advocating for drugs in general here.
Re:Intellectual pursuits may buffer the brain against addiction
by sliverstorm on Sunday July 19, 2015 @02:04AM
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Lance Armstrong is also one in seven billion, drugs or not.