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Re:Two big challenges in machine learning [pdf] by joe_the_user on Monday July 13, 2015 @03:25PM (#9880415)
Yeah, the presentation format is annoying but argument is good, in fact, the argument is really important.

Machine learning is about approximate reasoning but with no real guarantees of the approximation. Even if the approximation is usually very good, being occasionally bad can be "deeply problematic" when we don't have control over exactly how exactly the bad recommendations are created.

Re:Two big challenges in machine learning [pdf] by shockzzz on Monday July 13, 2015 @06:10PM (#9881494)
Isn't that what confidence intervals are for?
Re:Two big challenges in machine learning [pdf] by RMarcus on Monday July 13, 2015 @06:12PM (#9881509)
I'd say that's more what cost functions are for, but that is neither here nor there.

I think the biggest takeaways are...

1) Machine learning in large software projects is complex because decisions made by one algorithm can influence the data of other algorithms, creating massive biasing.

2) Simple cross-validation / hold back methodology is limited as we expand what we want machine learning to be able to handle. Reason: big data is too big and "correctness" is difficult to evaluate for things like Q/A systems.

Re:Two big challenges in machine learning [pdf] by joe_the_user on Monday July 13, 2015 @08:25PM (#9882096)
Indeed it is and machine learning not being "real statistics" but ad-hoc methodologies (based on statistics but not being statistics) doesn't give confidence intervals etc.

Plus read the article/presentation. It goes into the issue with great depth and clarity.

Re:Two big challenges in machine learning [pdf] by xyzzy123 on Tuesday July 14, 2015 @06:56AM (#9883950)
If we pick a silly thing like recommendations, they happen in a multidimensional space. Not only do we not know the right metrics, shape of the space or cost functions, our feedback is distorted by the actual recommendations we give!