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Re:Army National Guard announces data breach by chrissnell on Saturday July 11, 2015 @08:12PM (#9872059)
As a former ARNG member and a current Army Reserve member, this doesn't surprise me at all. The U.S. military's regard for personal information has been dreadful. Service in the military entails endless filling out of paper and electronic forms and almost every one of them has the servicemember's SSN on them. These forms get filed in filing cabinets, e-mailed around and--quite often--left on desks. The situation is made worse because our pay grades are typically part of the form, too, so a potential identity thief knows the approximate salary of the victim because our salaries are standardized and readily available.

Things are getting better and the DoD has switched to a non-SSN identification number but the SSN is still frequently used.

Re:Army National Guard announces data breach by reustle on Sunday July 12, 2015 @02:20AM (#9872739)
The point I take away from this is, how long is SSN going to be a super secret 11-digit pin for your life? Banking online, job forms, etc all use SSN and it gets thrown around everywhere. Are there any indicators that we're working on something a bit more modern for identification?
Re:Army National Guard announces data breach by shubb on Sunday July 12, 2015 @01:01PM (#9874066)
This new version of 0Auth is based on a military grade security model.

You authenticate everywhere using a long number (PIN) (so long you have to write it down and store it). All the services you authenticate with will store this PIN unhashed.

You should keep your PIN safe, because it can be used to apply for bank accounts, loans, and commit tax fraud if it is stolen.

If you ever forget your PIN don't worry. We will print it on various letters and mail them to you. If you need it urgently, you will find it next to your name in various post-hack data dumps around the internet.

Re:Army National Guard announces data breach by omegaham on Saturday July 11, 2015 @09:24PM (#9872245)
Yep. My dog tags had my SSN on them, which I found to be completely ridiculous, as did my military ID for a while.

They started issuing cards with an EDIPI on them relatively recently, which is a step in the right direction, but there's still a lot of work to do.

Re:Army National Guard announces data breach by stonogo on Sunday July 12, 2015 @12:49AM (#9872600)
When that policy was enacted we were still living in the world where the SSN was not the primary means of personal identification. Social security cards used to explicitly say they were not to be used for personal identification, recently enough that mine does.

The DOD originally switched to the SSN from the previous service numbers, as in "name rank and serial number". It was a convenience measure, since the service number system was arcane.

Service numbers were also public record, and I've read documents indicating that social security numbers were not considered sensitive information (notwithstanding the fact that the DOD didn't have the concept of PII formalized back then).

Should the DOD have moved back to another serial number system sooner? Possibly. I'm amazed that they're moving at all.