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Re:StackOverflow modding itself out of existence by jameshart on Saturday July 11, 2015 @11:46AM (#9870175)
The trouble is, the question is completely backwards. "I have this solution, what problems can I solve with it?" is not something a human being generally asks.

For every answer to this question, SO would be better served with a question asking "How does [Java internal or widely used library class] accomplish [thing that seems impossible in Java]" for which the answer is "It uses sun.misc.Unsafe in [this way]".

Yes, the information on this page is useful, but it's not stack overflowish.

Still, seems crazy to close it if more sensible versions of the question don't exist.

Re:StackOverflow modding itself out of existence by troymc on Saturday July 11, 2015 @11:57AM (#9870223)
> "I have this solution, what problems can I solve with it?" is not something a human being generally asks.

Either you're being sarcastic, or you have no familiarity with the history of science.

The rest of your answer shows another aspect of what's wrong with Stack Overflow: zealous mods who get an idea of the perfect question into their heads, and then who go out to purge anything that doesn't conform, regardless of whether others find it (and its response) useful or interesting.

Re:StackOverflow modding itself out of existence by jameshart on Saturday July 11, 2015 @12:28PM (#9870380)
We're not talking about scientific discovery, we're talking about programmers typing questions into google. If you start from 'I want to use sun.misc.Unsafe but I don't know what for - let's see what Google comes up with' you are clearly up to no good.

This question is useful as a place for blogposts to link to, not as a primary answer to a question you might Google. So it's 'wrong' for stackoverflow in that sense. But no, I'm not agreeing that mods should have closed it, and I didn't say it should have been purged from SO. Luckily, it hasn't been, so we can stop worrying.

Re:StackOverflow modding itself out of existence by mistermann on Saturday July 11, 2015 @02:02PM (#9870867)
> If you start from 'I want to use sun.misc.Unsafe but I don't know what for - let's see what Google comes up with' you are clearly up to no good.

I completely disagree. If you are a new programmer who knows nothing about a certain topic/keyword/etc, googling "what would I use <x> for" is not only not being "up to no good", it's just plain common sense and curiosity. How else might one learn about entirely new things?

Re:StackOverflow modding itself out of existence by mhink on Saturday July 11, 2015 @01:32PM (#9870712)
I highly doubt anyone starts with "oh hay, I want to use sun.misc.Unsafe". More like "hmm, I think I need to use sun.misc.Unsafe, but I'm not sure if that's the right call. Since this is an uncommon API, it's going to take a bunch of research, which will be a waste of time if I don't need to use it. Let me look up the common applications and see if they pattern-match with the stuff I'm trying to do."
Re:StackOverflow modding itself out of existence by derpderpdrep on Saturday July 11, 2015 @11:58AM (#9870226)
I really actually love finding questions like that on SO. Sometimes the only way you learn how to do something better is through spontaneous example, because it's just not intuitive or inline with the current flow of things.

Maybe they would be better categorized into some group that is more appropriate, but then you lose the possibility of someone within that knowledge domain being able to answer the question appropriately.

Those questions run right alongside reading documentation for fun.

I suppose an overhaul to the infrastructure of question answering could help solve this problem - like questions have a maturity cycle / process in which they are developed into a more refined / edited sorts of comprehensive documentation, or even a better 'smarter' way of linking clusters of question together, or a way of moderating the authoritative direction of a question (rather than delete or replace, show a progression of modifications so people can learn what are model questions and what are less useful kinds).

Getting people to stop asking kinds of questions will never work, because they ask those questions precisely because they have not been trained in any sorts of formal internet etiquette. If you want to prevent the community from collapsing in on itself, I think the best solution is to modify the flow and connectivity of questions, so that they are intelligently inter-related, rather than relying on a sort of competitive singular universal form.

Re:StackOverflow modding itself out of existence by moistgorilla on Saturday July 11, 2015 @12:20PM (#9870344)
What a horrible reason for deciding a question is bad. If you are simply exploring the java library and see something you don't understand it is perfectly valid to ask why the hell something exists.

Also you give no reasons as to why your preferred way of asking questions is superior other than stating as a fact that "SO would be better served" by it.

Re:StackOverflow modding itself out of existence by iamcurious on Saturday July 11, 2015 @12:57PM (#9870519)
"I have this solution, what problems can I solve with it?" is not something a human being generally asks.

That is an extremely good and useful question. It is called the bottom up approach. The fact that it might or might not be asked generally, has nothing to do with what we should do the times it is asked.

Re:StackOverflow modding itself out of existence by anonymousab on Saturday July 11, 2015 @02:00PM (#9870857)
Those are by far my favorite and most useful questions on SO.
Re:StackOverflow modding itself out of existence by lfowles on Saturday July 11, 2015 @12:14PM (#9870316)
The question may have been better phrased as "What was the motivation for Unsafe? How is it intended to be used in real code?"
Re:StackOverflow modding itself out of existence by jameshart on Saturday July 11, 2015 @12:19PM (#9870335)
True, except that the 'right' answer to that question is 'it's not intended for use'.