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Re:Will Our Understanding of Math Deteriorate Over Time? by eli_gottlieb on Thursday July 09, 2015 @05:34PM (#9860843)
>"The best way to teach real mathematics, I believe, is to start deeper down, with the elementary ideas of number and space. Everyone concedes that these are fundamental, but they have been scandalously neglected, perhaps in the naive belief that anyone learning calculus has outgrown them. In fact, arithmetic, algebra, and geometry can never be outgrown, and the most rewarding path to higher mathematics sustains their development alongside the 'advanced' branches such as calculus. Also, by maintaining ties between these disciplines, it is possible to present a more unified view of mathematics, yet at the same time to include more spice and variety."

While I do agree, we have to remember why most math classes actually exist: to teach calculus to physicists and engineers, and, as my stepfather's undergraduate advisor once said, "to keep the children from running in the halls".

(For the mathematician's extremely self-centered view of "children" as "anyone who has yet to ace two semesters of real analysis".)

I've been starting into real analysis myself via Pugh's textbook[1] after not taking a serious math class since multivariable calculus, and found that, once I get past the applied stuff, I really like the approach of building up calculus from its foundations in real numbers (taken as Dedekind cuts), limits (Cauchy-convergent sequences), the set-theoretic construction of functions, and the construction of topological and metric spaces "from scratch". But I can tell that I like it because, deep down, I have the mind of a theoretical computer scientist (which is what I like to be when I'm not writing firmware), which is a kind of mathematician. I appreciate that someone has to teach the applied classes to the people who aren't going to kvetch about "how can I trust that works!?" and who demand to just get their math over with as quickly as possible.

[1] -- http://www.amazon.com/Mathematical-Analysis-Undergraduate-Te...

Re:Will Our Understanding of Math Deteriorate Over Time? by arh68 on Thursday July 09, 2015 @07:16PM (#9861345)
> I've been starting into real analysis myself via Pugh's textbook[1] after not taking a serious math class since multivariable calculus

Do you have recommendations for other books? I stopped at multivariable calculus as well. For what it's worth those yellow Graduate Texts in Maths books feel like reading TaoCP or CLRS; I'm looking for more approachable textbooks. I feel like I'm not even up to the 1800s, math-wise, not even up to Gauss.

Re:Will Our Understanding of Math Deteriorate Over Time? by jacobolus on Thursday July 09, 2015 @11:54PM (#9862224)
There are hundreds of good math textbooks to recommend, it really depends on your interests.

For a broad overview at an undergraduate level, with a great job explaining the context of various mathematics topics, these Russian books from the 50s, Mathematics: Its Content, Methods and Meaning by Aleksandrov, Kolmogorov, and Lavrentiev, are pretty fun. Amazon link to the one-volume Dover reprint (but I’d recommend finding a used three-volume hardback copy): http://amzn.com/0486409163

Or check out John Stillwell’s Mathematics and its History: http://amzn.com/144196052X

Re:Will Our Understanding of Math Deteriorate Over Time? by LimpWristed on Thursday July 09, 2015 @08:40PM (#9861684)
Are you comfortable with proving math statements? If not, How to Think About Analysis by Lara Alcock is an amazing intro to Analysis. http://www.amazon.com/Think-About-Analysis-Lara-Alcock/dp/01...
Re:Will Our Understanding of Math Deteriorate Over Time? by thaumasiotes on Friday July 10, 2015 @06:01AM (#9863087)
If you're going to work with Cauchy sequences, why bother defining the reals as Dedekind cuts? You can define them as Cauchy sequences of rationals.
Re:Will Our Understanding of Math Deteriorate Over Time? by eli_gottlieb on Friday July 10, 2015 @09:59AM (#9863964)
Pugh mostly just wanted to be able to state the theorem that a sequence has a limit iff it is Cauchy convergent.