Do you really find the AWS console usable? I was shocked the first time I logged into that thing, I said to myself, "what the hell is that?". AWS is certainly one of the most complicated app available online, and i'm sure it is maintained by a lot of different teams but a serious designer didn't do the UX/UI. It feels SO clunky.

> Not that it matters, but I think they use GWT.

the problem is I think it's much more difficult to iterate with this kind of abstractions.