IBM says it has made working versions of 7nm chips

Re:IBM says it has made working versions of 7nm chips by QuantumRoar on Thursday July 09, 2015 @05:50AM (#9856983)

III-V semiconductors like Gallium Arsenide have a high mobility and are probably tested right now in Research labs around the world for CMOS-transistors (it is already in use for something like solar panels). But there's always the problem of how to scale these things as well as silicon based manufacturing.

Further out is still some stuff like graphene or carbon nanotubes. Of course, the structure of the transistor itself might change, which could enable further downscaling. There's already been a switch from planar to Silicon-on-Insulator (e.g. GlobalFoundries, TSMC, Samsung(?)) and Intel has the TriGate (everybody else calls it FinFet).

One day we might see the natural evolution to the gate-all-around FET, which would be something akin to a silicon nanowire (note: planar has the gate on top, FinFET has gate on top, left, and right of the channel). However, there are huge roadblocks in manufacturing to solve. And this could really be an issue. We might very well be able to build at the 5nm node. But if we can't build them fast and cheap enough, noone's going to do it. Manufacturers are already triple-patterning and doing all kinds of voodoo just to keep up with Moore's law.

Good old silicon might actually stay a central part for a much, much longer time.

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Re:IBM says it has made working versions of 7nm chips by joshuapants on Thursday July 09, 2015 @11:32AM (#9858446)

Could the vacuum channel transistor[1] also be a contender?

[1] http://spectrum.ieee.org/semiconductors/devices/introducing-...

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Re:IBM says it has made working versions of 7nm chips by QuantumRoar on Thursday July 09, 2015 @04:55PM (#9860623)

There's no one way forward. A lot of things might happen and it will only be decided once a company actually ships a new and viable technology.

Remember what Intel did with the FinFETs. It was the same discussion then (What could the next thing be? III-V, SOI, blabla?). At one point, Intel simply came on stage, surprised us with FinFETs and everybody was like: "I guess it's FinFET, then." The idea of FinFETs is actually from the 90s or so. The sole reason why noone did it before is because noone could actually build them at scale (AFAIK, Intel is still the only company that ships FinFETs).

Keep in mind that manufacturing is very hard. It is very unlikely that there will be more than incremental steps. Just changing the channel material is already quite the task.

Also, don't believe any "This is the next transistor!" stuff. You can find these things a lot but they rarely mean more than some department trying to make a bit of publicity.

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Re:IBM says it has made working versions of 7nm chips by thoughtsimple on Thursday July 09, 2015 @02:22PM (#9859744)

IBM has some good news on III-V materials as well.

https://www.aip.org/publishing/journal-highlights/futuristic...

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Re:IBM says it has made working versions of 7nm chips by timelined on Thursday July 09, 2015 @01:45PM (#9859487)

IBM was one of the first big companies to develop/commercialize SOI technologies.

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Re:IBM says it has made working versions of 7nm chips by QuantumRoar on Thursday July 09, 2015 @05:03PM (#9860664)

SOI is better than the planar design since you can fully deplete the channel. But it's worse than FinFETs when you consider the control of the gate on the channel and when it comes to thermals. The oxide below the channel also acts as a thermal isolator. So the heat can't be transported away as efficiently.

The upside of SOI is that it's easier to manufacture. That's why we see so much of it around (AFAIK, GlobalFoundries and TSMC still do it).

But the actual way forward is the FinFET. The 7nm chip from the article is actually built with FinFETs. Otherwise that thing would probably not work very well.

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