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Re:Text Your Bill Venmo.com by dbrown26 on Wednesday December 09, 2009 @11:07AM (#985953)
It appears that they take payments in as deposits and then disburse the money when another user requests a withdrawal. This requires either a bank charter or a designation as a money transfer agency. Without one of those, they are running an unlicensed bank. You cannot hold the money as an intermediary in the US without satisfying one of those requirements. I don't see anything on the site about either one of them, but knowing at least a little about the capital requirements needed to get one or both of those I would doubt that they have them. Please correct me if I am wrong, I think mobile payments is an idea who's time is past due but its very difficult to pull off in the US.
Re:Text Your Bill Venmo.com by ivankirigin on Wednesday December 09, 2009 @12:43AM (#985415)
I know the guys that make it, and they're solid. Check it out: http://venmo.com

It has been done before, but it hasn't caught on yet in the US. I'm not sure why. It does fine elsewhere - but the configuration is usually through the carrier.

Re:Text Your Bill Venmo.com by andreyf on Wednesday December 09, 2009 @01:02AM (#985441)
I'm not sure why.

This isn't US-specific, but according to the PayPal interview in Founders at Work, the problem is fraud.

Re:Text Your Bill Venmo.com by ivankirigin on Wednesday December 09, 2009 @01:23AM (#985461)
Well, I would trust a notification of a text message than a submission of a form from a potentially phished account. Then the issue is stolen cards, and ramp-up of merchants and payers is a good way to limit risk.

I think this is a user issue. People don't currently pay with there phones. There are a bunch of options for it.

Re:Text Your Bill Venmo.com by ivey on Wednesday December 09, 2009 @11:11AM (#985961)
Stolen cards is a huge issue. I actually think being a smaller "Penn students and surrounding businesses" type of play would make it easier...there's less incentive for the online-only stolen card gangs to take over.
Re:Text Your Bill Venmo.com by covercash on Wednesday December 09, 2009 @01:29AM (#985462)
Even PayPal has PayPal Mobile: http://www.crunchbase.com/product/paypal-mobile

Venmo has been getting quite a bit of buzz lately in my circles so I'm sure they're on PayPal's radar.

Re:Text Your Bill Venmo.com by rishi on Wednesday December 09, 2009 @01:08AM (#985448)
Pretty Cool.

But what happens if you don't have a venmo account and you pay the restaurant and then decide when you get home not to create an account? Do they somehow charge you through your phone bill?

Re:Text Your Bill Venmo.com by pwmanagerdied on Wednesday December 09, 2009 @04:36AM (#985584)
Like most services, you need to be registered and have payment methods set up before you can make payments.
Re:Text Your Bill Venmo.com by iqram on Wednesday December 09, 2009 @08:27AM (#985744)
As a first time user, you can actually complete your purchase at the point of purchase. There's no pre-registration required and through texting and a phone call you can add your payment information and notify the restaurant of your payment.
Re:Text Your Bill Venmo.com by pwmanagerdied on Wednesday December 09, 2009 @08:36AM (#985752)
Ah, I didn't realize that you could add payment info from your phone. I'm not sure how safe I'd feel about that.
Re:Text Your Bill Venmo.com by rflrob on Wednesday December 09, 2009 @01:35AM (#985467)
How does Venmo make money off of this? Do they charge the sender? In the article, a vendor says, "they’re not charging us any transaction fee"