git clone git://ycombinator.com/arc.1.0.0At least, that's what the people who want to become lisp programmers want. It's probably not what the current lisp programmers want. Hey ho. Just don't make emacs the default development environment.
Pg has a lot of people fired up about using lisps, but right now it's a sport you can only participate in if you've got a certain -other- set of skills like vi and emacs and a decent knowledge of system administration. Preconditions like this limit the user community massively. Small communities find it difficult to get momentum.
I've forced myself to stick with emacs/slime because basically that's that there is. I'm getting comfortable, and starting to like it. But I think it's actually a kind of Helsinki syndrome...
I'd like to write the next Viaweb, and I'd like to write it in Lisp. But if the basic language is inviting, the rest of the environment is sorta hostile; a shangri-la in a swamp.
So the quality of the installer, the libraries distributed with it, the documentation, and the bundled editor will ultimately affect it's success.
I look forward to typing:
emerge -av arc darcs get http://ycombinator.com/arc git clone git://archub.com/arc.1.0.0Should we arrange another Lightweight Languages day at MIT for this?
I attended Lightweight Languages once and it was awesome. Informal, a large variety of smart people, but each smart in their own way, that had a lot to genuinely learn from each other.
Sadly, conferences, even comparatively small and informal once, take some effort and some money to put together, and frankly it's not going to be me who is capable of coming up with either.