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Re:Greece by icebraining on Saturday July 04, 2015 @09:46PM (#9832231)
News articles from back in 2003 openly said that the dealing Greece had with Goldman-Sachs were a way of playing with the numbers to present an "acceptable" deficit. It wasn't hidden.

Also, from 2004, long before any Troka: "Greece admits fudging euro entry"

"Katinka Barysch, chief economist at the Centre for European Reform, said the announcement would not be a surprise for Brussels insiders.

"Quite a few member states did something similar because of the political imperative to join the euro as soon as possible. Greece has just gone a bit further," she said."

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/business/4012869.stm

The idea that Greece simply fooled everyone is nothing more than propaganda.

Re:Greece by peterfirefly on Sunday July 05, 2015 @08:53AM (#9833372)
Everybody knew they cheated (as did France and Italy, for example). The /extent/ was a surprise.