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Re:San Francisco Hotels Are World’s Priciest as Rates Surge by johansch on Wednesday July 01, 2015 @03:44PM (#9814617)
In London I can always find ok hotels for $150/night. In SF it's 300-350 minimum. All prices including taxes. (Why don't you just include them in the display price, americans?)
Re:San Francisco Hotels Are World’s Priciest as Rates Surge by adventured on Wednesday July 01, 2015 @04:09PM (#9814789)
At least four reasons. Americans are used to the system they have, it doesn't cause any meaningful economic problems domestically (complaints come almost exclusively from foreigners). Businesses specifically want to show you the price they're charging you, as apart from the taxes they're forced to collect; that also enables businesses to charge a bit more in the rounding schemes (eg sell a blu-ray for $5 headline price, charge tax after; if they had to build tax into it, they'd lose ~6% on the pricing to use the rounding promotion approach). The US has 50 states with different tax schemes, that's a nightmare for labeling goods.

For example, usually a bag of chips at Target or Walmart or a convenience store will say eg $3.99 printed on the bag. Some stores will slap their own dominant label on there, others choose not to.

Vendors often stock the shelves at stores, especially for certain categories of products, and store types. The chip delivery guy will stock the convenience store, Walmart, etc.

Chip production (eg Doritos) and delivery is limited to just a few factories, but they distribute to every state. For convenience, for decades, the companies have typically pre-stamped prices on chip bags.

So why not do it with hotels? Because no other segment of the economy tends to do it, and for the other reason mentioned: it cuts into price rounding advertising methods (or you have to raise prices to the next rounding).

If you want taxes built into the pricing on consumer goods, either they have to stop price labeling before delivery, or customize for every state. At this point, nobody really wants to change, because the system works fine as is. Ie it's good enough, but not perfect.

Re:San Francisco Hotels Are World’s Priciest as Rates Surge by jessaustin on Wednesday July 01, 2015 @04:34PM (#9814946)
Businesses specifically want to show you the price they're charging you, as apart from the taxes they're forced to collect...

This is a bit of a cheat, first because high lodging taxes are often created at the request of local hotel owners: it typically feeds a tourism-advertising slush fund. Also, we're now overrun by TIF, a scheme by which government loan guarantees for development are theoretically repaid by higher "taxes" on business in the developed area. In that case hotel guests are directly paying the bills for hotel investors.

Re:San Francisco Hotels Are World’s Priciest as Rates Surge by johansch on Wednesday July 01, 2015 @04:20PM (#9814855)
Contrast: In Europe typically no items in a grocery store have their price printed onto the actual product. Or even have price tags. You look up the product price by the price sign placed adjacently. It includes (by law) a handy price comparison (in the format of currency per e.g. liter/kg/g/etc.)

I think your system sucks donkey ass. :)

Re:San Francisco Hotels Are World’s Priciest as Rates Surge by linkregister on Wednesday July 01, 2015 @04:50PM (#9815048)
Also in the U.S. almost all major groceries likewise use signs on the shelf to display price, and the cashier reads the bar code to retrieve it at checkout.

The actual reason is a lack of sufficient pressure to change this practice.

Re:San Francisco Hotels Are World’s Priciest as Rates Surge by johansch on Wednesday July 01, 2015 @04:12PM (#9814801)
tldr: "bla bla, we are lazy, not bothered"

:)

Re:San Francisco Hotels Are World’s Priciest as Rates Surge by jessaustin on Wednesday July 01, 2015 @03:55PM (#9814684)
Why don't you just include them in the display price, americans?

In most cases it's because local lodging taxes are insanely high. I regularly see e.g. $65 rooms bumped up to close to $100. (I haven't stayed in SF, but it would surprise me if it's an exception.)

Are European taxes set at a national level? In USA the relevant taxes are set by each city and county, so by hiding the tax, highly-taxed hotels can better compete with those in the next town over.

EDIT: don't expect anything to be good for the consumer!

Re:San Francisco Hotels Are World’s Priciest as Rates Surge by johansch on Wednesday July 01, 2015 @04:09PM (#9814791)
There typically aren't any lodging taxes. The VAT varies, but hovers around 19-25% (per country).

Your answer doesn't make sense though. Laws around price display need to be consumer-centric, not provider-centric. Why should a place in a high-tax location be able to compete with a place in a low-tax location by fooling the customer?

Re:San Francisco Hotels Are World’s Priciest as Rates Surge by greggman on Thursday July 02, 2015 @02:17AM (#9817155)
I'm confused. I just posted above a search that showed lots of hotels below $220 in SF. So it's seems arguably false that SF is 300-350 min. Maybe you're limited it to high end? Or maybe searching from the UK shows different prices? Also, I've never been charged more than was shown on booking.com