FISA court rules NSA can resume bulk data collection

Re:FISA court rules NSA can resume bulk data collection by Ntrails on Wednesday July 01, 2015 @07:49AM (#9811234)

Damn near everything they sent to be approved was in line with how FISA rules on such things.

We've got two arguments

    - Did FISA properly check submissions were appropriate for their rules/laws.
    - Are FISA rules/laws appropriate for USA #1

I think we can all agree the first might be true (and thus they are not rubber stamping), whilst simultaneously mostly agreeing the second is definitely doubtful

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Re:FISA court rules NSA can resume bulk data collection by Bartweiss on Wednesday July 01, 2015 @10:13AM (#9811909)

This is a great summary of the problem, and of why we're talking at cross purposes. Defending the accuracy of the FISA decisions only defends points one, while almost everyone attacking the court is talking about point two.

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Re:FISA court rules NSA can resume bulk data collection by ikeboy on Wednesday July 01, 2015 @10:25AM (#9811992)

Whoever mentions the numbers on how few applications were rejected as an argument seemingly can't be talking about point two. And that was what prompted this particular discussion, so I don't think you can claim the people involved are talking about point two.

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