> Lennarts reasons for not using *.systemd.pool.ntp.org ("systemd isn't a distribution") makes sense to me.

But goes on to say:

> @crrodriguez If you kept reading you'd learn about getting a "vendor pool" setup specifically for your product/distribution.

...to provide a correction to someone saying pools can't be used.

abh also says:

> I'd suggest having no default NTP servers in the systemd code; leave it to distributors to provide their own (possibly via the NTP Pool).

That's something that LP appears to have considered. I'm not sure why that isn't done.

Yes. Someone claimed (correctly), that *.pool.ntp.org can't be used. abh ammended that by saying, that however, a vendor zone can be used. I don't think anyone ever doubted that point. Notably, Lennart seemed to be aware of that point in his earlier mail.

> That's something that LP appears to have considered. I'm not sure why that isn't done.

The reason given before was, that tests and similar need some values. However, a PR implementing exactly this solution is currently in discussion (and afaik Lennart has not respondet to that yet). I would wait until the dust is settled on that, before I continue this discussion. The bug report (which is afaik the first time anyone has indicated that the Google servers shouldn't be used for this) is half a day old, that's basically nothing in FOSS-development (especially for a non-critical issue like this). Give it some time, if this isn't solved in a week, that may be a more appropriate time for pointing fingers and being unpatient.