Re:U.S. Supreme Court Denies Google's Request to Appeal Orac...
by spinlock on Monday June 29, 2015 @06:47PM
(#9801675)
So you admit that there was copying. /s
But, in all seriousness, the 9 lines + 7 files are damning. It also shows that the engineers who implemented Google's project had been tainted by exposure to Java.
Re:U.S. Supreme Court Denies Google's Request to Appeal Orac...
by NeutronBoy on Monday June 29, 2015 @07:03PM
(#9801744)
> But, in all seriousness, the 9 lines + 7 files are damning. It also shows that the engineers who implemented Google's project had been tainted by exposure to Java.
I think that's one of the key points. How can you claim a clean-room implementation, when there are (small) portions that have been directly copied? It weakens the case for the rest of the code.
Re:U.S. Supreme Court Denies Google's Request to Appeal Orac...
by Zigurd on Monday June 29, 2015 @09:52PM
(#9802393)
Android uses code from Apache Harmony for many basic Java classes. If any code was copied from Java 6, it would have happened in the Harmony project.
Android's use of Java also ends in the toolchain. Android never used a Java(tm) runtime, nor Java bytecode in the runtime. by the time an app hits a device, it's in Dalvik bytecode and either interpreted/JIT-compiled by the Dalvik runtime or pre-compiled to the target system ISA for the ART runtime.
Re:U.S. Supreme Court Denies Google's Request to Appeal Orac...
by Oletros on Monday June 29, 2015 @07:10PM
(#9801785)
Nobody claimed a clean room implementation because it had nothing to do with the case
Re:U.S. Supreme Court Denies Google's Request to Appeal Orac...
by dd9990 on Monday June 29, 2015 @08:10PM
(#9802037)
It's more interesting than that. The engineer who wrote those 9 lines was employed by Sun working on Java APIs before working for Google. According to his testimony it was a "fix later" copy/paste mistake he made when improving Sun's OpenJDK code while working for Google.
Re:U.S. Supreme Court Denies Google's Request to Appeal Orac...
by Oletros on Monday June 29, 2015 @07:09PM
(#9801784)
Implementation was never a problem in this case
Re:U.S. Supreme Court Denies Google's Request to Appeal Orac...
by cheald on Tuesday June 30, 2015 @05:06PM
(#9808422)
9 lines copied by the guy who wrote the original implementation, let's not forget. This was literally a case of him saying "oh, I've done this trivial thing before, I'll just grab what I did then".
This whole thing is a travesty.
Re:U.S. Supreme Court Denies Google's Request to Appeal Orac...
by andrewguenther on Monday June 29, 2015 @06:45PM
(#9801667)
Correct. But it was still copied and it still didn't help their case.
Re:U.S. Supreme Court Denies Google's Request to Appeal Orac...
by bitmapbrother on Monday June 29, 2015 @07:30PM
(#9801866)
Yes, it was copied by the original author that wrote it back when he was employed at Sun. Additionally, those 9 insignificant lines were irrelevant to the case. The fact that it was even presented showed how desperate Oracle was.
The only other thing were 7 test files that were not part of the implementation