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Re:Cymmetria (YC S15) Uses Virtual Machines to Decoy and Det... by tptacek on Saturday June 27, 2015 @02:29PM (#9791073)
Gadi Evron has been in the security industry for a long, long time. He's a malware/botnet/honeynets guy. Mile-long resume.

This is kind of a surprising pick for YC: a down-the-middle enterprise security play, the kind of company that usually gets funded by Battery because one of the cofounders successfully sold a portfolio company a couple iterations ago.

It's interesting to see what seems to be a pretty conventional bit of security technology (sandboxing malware and exploit code into virtual machines is the kernel of several 9-figure security products) get extra attention because of the YC pedigree. Or maybe TechCrunch just got this wrong? Either way: not complaining!

Re:Cymmetria (YC S15) Uses Virtual Machines to Decoy and Det... by FreakLegion on Saturday June 27, 2015 @03:25PM (#9791255)
It's a fun twist on that conventional bit of security technology, though* . What I'm unsure of is whether these decoy-type products really provide much value beyond alert triage. Even if we're charitable and assume they don't introduce new false positives into the system, all the old false positives remain.

* Disclaimer: I manage one of those nine-figure security products you mention.

Re:Cymmetria (YC S15) Uses Virtual Machines to Decoy and Det... by ddiinn on Sunday June 28, 2015 @01:57AM (#9792579)
The system will not catch everything in any way - but what it does catch has no false positives by definition. We're very happy to demonstrate live the value proposition and how alerting is one aspect of what we do.
Re:Cymmetria (YC S15) Uses Virtual Machines to Decoy and Det... by FreakLegion on Sunday June 28, 2015 @03:52AM (#9792800)
> no false positives

> will not catch everything in any way

This is why I'm unsure of the value. And to be clear, by "unsure of the value" I don't mean "unsure whether it has any value." It certainly has value. I'm just not sure how much, as, say, a dollar figure.

"No false positives" is fine marketing, but in practice you aren't replacing anyone's firewalls, endpoint agents, sandboxes, SIEMs, etc. All those false positives will still be there, along with many legitimate detections your system never sees.

If money were no object, then absolutely I'd buy. But given that money is usually a factor, that you're limited to detection, that you're only effective in scenarios where attackers touch your decoy systems, and that you're competing for dollars against products that detect more, detect it sooner, and often prevent it automatically, I don't know.

Re:Cymmetria (YC S15) Uses Virtual Machines to Decoy and Det... by ddiinn2 on Sunday June 28, 2015 @09:23PM (#9795947)
When you get one alert that you realize isn't false and has the forensic data tied to it, you can use it as a harness against the loads of information from all the other sensors (firewall, endpoints, sandboxes etc) to give you a definitive picture you're certain in.
Re:Cymmetria (YC S15) Uses Virtual Machines to Decoy and Det... by ddiinn on Sunday June 28, 2015 @01:55AM (#9792575)
Thanks for the kind words, Thomas. Sandboxing is a very minor part of what we do, I'd be happy to share.