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Re:Lake fire grew after private drone flights disrupted air ... by Animats on Friday June 26, 2015 @01:17AM (#9782623)
The FAA's proposed rules [1] for small unmanned aircraft are quite reasonable. "Small" means < 25Kg. Max altitude 500' AGL. (Manned aircraft have a minimum altitude, usually 1000', so there's separation.) Visual line of sight to operator. Operation in class G airspace (not near airport, low level) OK. Operation in class A airspace (above 18,000') prohibited. Operation in class B,C,D airspace (near airports, etc.) requires coordination with air traffic control, and probably a transponder. (There are small UAV-sized transponders, which make drones clearly visible on radar and ID them.) A UAV license will be required, covering the regulations. The sky has rules of the road, and anyone controlling a UAV needs to know them.

There may be a "micro UAV" (< 2Kg) category for toy-sized drones, with fewer restrictions. That's still being discussed. A study on consequences of a drone collision indicate that large aircraft could probably survive collisions with 2Kg drones without serious risk to the aircraft.[2] That doesn't mean no damage, it means the aircraft can land safely. Any jet engine which takes a bird strike gets a major overhaul, which costs upwards of $100K.

[1] https://www.faa.gov/regulations_policies/rulemaking/media/02... [2] http://www.uasamericafund.com/assets/micro-uav-safety-analys...

Re:Lake fire grew after private drone flights disrupted air ... by bradleyland on Friday June 26, 2015 @10:14AM (#9784475)
This isn't really a counter-argument to anything you've said, but I'm curious if those regulations would have prevented the circumstance here?

Do you happen to know what altitude firefighting aircraft fly at when they drop? It would seem that 500' AGL would be on the high side if you expect the fire suppression material to hit anywhere near the target site in any reasonable level of concentration. I know nothing about the subject matter though, so that could be a bad assumption.

Re:Lake fire grew after private drone flights disrupted air ... by Animats on Friday June 26, 2015 @02:35PM (#9786784)
Air traffic control around major incidents is covered in [1]. The FAA issues a NOTAM (Notice to Airmen) which all Flight Service Stations receive, indicating an incident area, which is usually a lat/long point and a radius. There's a designated incident commander who has control of that airspace, and a way to contact them. Any aircraft not in contact with the incident commander must stay out of the area.

Pilots check NOTAMs before takeoff to see if there's anything going on they need to know about. There's an FAA search engine for NOTAMS [2], and it will accept lat/long coordinates. This is the sort of thing that the basic training and exam for drone operators must cover - check the NOTAMs before flight.

For the San Bernandio Mountains fire, there's a NOTAM:

    ZLA   LOS ANGELES (ARTCC)PALMDALE, CA.
    !FDC 5/6263 ZLA CA..
    AIRSPACE SAN BERNARDINO, CA..
    TEMPORARY FLIGHT RESTRICTIONS WITHIN AREA DEFINED AS 3 NM RADIUS 
    OF 340927N/1171437W (PARADISE VORTAC PDZ030020.2) SFC-6000FT. TO 
    PROVIDE A SAFE ENVIRONMENT FOR FIRE FIGHTING. PURSUANT TO 14 CFR 
    SECTION 91.137(A)(2) TEMPORARY FLIGHT RESTRICTIONS ARE IN EFFECT. 
    USFS TELEPHONE 909-383-5651 OR FREQ 123.775/STERLING FIRE IS IN 
    CHARGE OF THE OPERATION. 
    LOS ANGELES /ZLA/ ARTCC TELEPHONE 661-265-8205 IS THE FAA 
    COORDINATION FACILITY. 
    EFFECTIVE 1506260700-1507010700
This is the aerial equivalent of traffic cones set out around a trouble spot.

For a pilot, "busting a TFR" (entering an area with restrictions like that) usually means a 30-90 day grounding. For something like actual interference with aerial firefighting, the penalties would be much higher.

There's an app for this.[3] Small drone operators might use a dumbed-down version which just gives you anything applicable to low-altitude operations near your current location.

The sky has many users and traffic rules. Drone operators have to be very aware of this.

[1] http://www.nifc.gov/nicc/logistics/references/Airspace_Guide... [2] https://pilotweb.nas.faa.gov/PilotWeb/ [3] https://itunes.apple.com/us/app/notams/id354048843