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Re:Dropbox Is Struggling and Competitors Are Catching Up by sjonnz on Wednesday June 24, 2015 @08:36PM (#9775336)
I have a hard time associating Condoleezza Rice with leading the charge on personal privacy. As long as Dropbox chooses to continue working with her, I will continue to steer my coworkers and friends to use one of the many, many other competitors. Even though there is no other evidence that others are better, selecting Ms. Rice shows poor judgement by Dropbox.
Re:Dropbox Is Struggling and Competitors Are Catching Up by api on Wednesday June 24, 2015 @10:19PM (#9775613)
I'm sure they went with Condi for her expertise in government, and thus in landing government contracts. That's how the revolving door contracting system works, and when you're in the competitive enterprise market you can't pass up that flow of money.

Nevertheless, I think bringing in her as opposed to some other apparatchik not so terribly tainted has harmed Dropbox more than they realize.

It's the sort of ill-will that sales and marketing heads will never see, and that doesn't show up on typical market research. No CTO of a major company is going to say "we didn't use Dropbox because they have someone on their board who was involved in perpetuating a trillion dollar fraud that cost hundreds of thousands of lives." They might not even think this -- they just know that their many underlings recommended OneDrive, Google Drive, btSync, or an in-house solution accessed via a VPN. None of these lower-rank employees will cite this as a factor either, even if many of them are thinking it.

Nope. People will just silently make a mental annotation: if there are any alternatives to Dropbox, don't use Dropbox because they have a war criminal on their board.

It's like what happens if you smell bad. People will avoid you, but very few people will tell you you smell bad. That's rude. Instead they'll make up other reasons to avoid bringing up something that could be divisive.

Re:Dropbox Is Struggling and Competitors Are Catching Up by kzhahou on Wednesday June 24, 2015 @09:33PM (#9775507)
Her appointment to the Dropbox board was to me another reminder that when you reach the upper echelon of power, be it honorably or destructively, you get to stay at the top essentially the rest of your life. No one invited ME to the Dropbox board, despite my resume stating very clearly up top:

* 2001-2005 - Did NOT advise POTUS to spend 1.7 trillion dollars and thousands of military and civilian lives on obviously shaky WMD testimony.

Re:Dropbox Is Struggling and Competitors Are Catching Up by winestock on Wednesday June 24, 2015 @10:44PM (#9775658)
Reminds me of Robert McNamara, SecDef under JFK & LBJ. Early in the Kennedy administration, both he Kennedy knew that the way that they were fighting in Vietnam made the war unwinnable. They kept on fighting the war on unwinnable terms.

In the 1990s, when he wrote his memoirs admitting as much, anyone who was anyone in the Beltway attended the celebratory launch of his book.

Carly Fiorina nearly destroyed Hewlett-Packard. After she left HP, Bush the Lesser immediately began floating her name for the International Monetary Fund. When that didn't take, she ran for the Senate against Babs Boxer. She lost that, too. And now this: https://www.carlyforpresident.com/

Left wing and Right wing, our elites seem to be selected for their ability to fail at scale.

Re:Dropbox Is Struggling and Competitors Are Catching Up by hsod on Wednesday June 24, 2015 @11:21PM (#9775741)
This is so reductive. If you want to talk about Rice's record as Secretary of State, lets talk about reality and leave the glib political posturing for campaign speeches.

* She almost definitely did not advise anyone to spend 1.7 trillion dollars on anything. Did she know how costly the war would be? Should she have known?

* "Obviously shaky" is easy to say in hindsight. What did she know when? What should she have known?

* Did she even advise the President to go to war? We don't know what she said behind closed doors. SecState works at the pleasure of the President-- it is entirely possible she opposed the war personally and in private counsel, but played the good soldier in public.

* If she did personally oppose the war to your satisfaction, was it wrong of her to play the good soldier, regardless of the circumstances? I tend to think so. But was it so wrong that she should be blacklisted from public life?

Life is messy.

Re:Dropbox Is Struggling and Competitors Are Catching Up by kzhahou on Thursday June 25, 2015 @12:04AM (#9775862)
Obviously shaky --> "Curveball," the informant. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Curveball_%28informant%29

> Despite warnings from the German Federal Intelligence Service and the British Secret Intelligence Service questioning the authenticity of the claims, the US Government and British government utilized them to build a rationale for military action in the lead up to the 2003 invasion of Iraq

Should she have known the cost (in $$$ and lives)? It was her job and that of every senior leader involved. They grossly underestimated the effort. Their colossal mistake wasn't just an oopsy-daisy to be waved away.

Incompetence at that scale should follow you around for your whole life.

Re:Dropbox Is Struggling and Competitors Are Catching Up by LekisS on Wednesday June 24, 2015 @08:55PM (#9775385)
That's also why I decided to stop using Dropbox (for personal and professional use) and I keep on telling my friends and co-workers to use a more secure and encrypted one.

When everyone begins to care about personal privacy, how could they chose to associate with Condoleezza Rice ? Is there even a worse choice ?

Edit: I'm using Hubic now, hosted by OVH (very very bad desktop app right now, but they're making progress, and it's cheap, 50€ for 10TB / year)

Re:Dropbox Is Struggling and Competitors Are Catching Up by sjg007 on Wednesday June 24, 2015 @09:13PM (#9775439)
Despite the politics involved in government, you need people with extensive government experience to help get access to the ultimate Enterprise customer (the Government). She was Secretary of State. The government by in large is going to want to have extensive privacy and protections for their internal data from adversaries etc...
Re:Dropbox Is Struggling and Competitors Are Catching Up by happywolf on Wednesday June 24, 2015 @09:18PM (#9775457)
Not familiar with American affair (not American but am using Dropbox), anybody care to shed more light on why Rice isn't the best person on personal privacy? Google search key words will be fine. Thx
Re:Dropbox Is Struggling and Competitors Are Catching Up by dwbond on Wednesday June 24, 2015 @09:36PM (#9775516)
Other commenters have mentioned warrantless wiretapping-- she served as National Security Advisor for George W. Bush and was also integrally involved in approving and overseeing torture.

http://www.theguardian.com/world/2009/apr/23/condoleezza-ric... http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2009/04...

Re:Dropbox Is Struggling and Competitors Are Catching Up by mikeash on Wednesday June 24, 2015 @09:27PM (#9775491)
Wikipedia actually has a section just about her and Dropbox: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Condoleezza_Rice#Criticism_of_...

I'm kind of surprised, personally.

Re:Dropbox Is Struggling and Competitors Are Catching Up by Grue3 on Thursday June 25, 2015 @11:09AM (#9778429)
Nothing surprising here, Wikipedia has long been used as a personal soapbox by some of the more opinionated editors.
Re:Dropbox Is Struggling and Competitors Are Catching Up by SoftwareMaven on Wednesday June 24, 2015 @09:25PM (#9775482)
Because she was George W Bush's National Security Advisor and Secretary of State. She was a proponent of the NSA's warrant-less wire-tapping.
Re:Dropbox Is Struggling and Competitors Are Catching Up by happywolf on Thursday June 25, 2015 @01:20AM (#9776100)
Thanks all who replied. Appreciated.
Re:Dropbox Is Struggling and Competitors Are Catching Up by curyous on Wednesday June 24, 2015 @09:11PM (#9775433)
What struck me about bringing Condoleezza Rice on is that it's an indicator that they don't have the customer's best interests at heart. I now avoid using DropBox whenever I can, replacing it with OneDrive and Google Drive.
Re:Dropbox Is Struggling and Competitors Are Catching Up by Spivak on Wednesday June 24, 2015 @09:40PM (#9775524)
Wait you're replacing Dropbox with two companies that are known to turn over data to the NSA and don't have client side encryption?

Not much of an improvement.

Re:Dropbox Is Struggling and Competitors Are Catching Up by curyous on Wednesday June 24, 2015 @10:57PM (#9775693)
I'm open to suggestions, they were just convenient and seem to work well enough.
Re:Dropbox Is Struggling and Competitors Are Catching Up by thawkins on Wednesday June 24, 2015 @09:24PM (#9775480)
Agreed, its why i stop using it. I started using btsync instead so that my machines where synced up without needing a cloud store.