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Re:Google Play Music – free, ad-supported radio by Someone1234 on Tuesday June 23, 2015 @01:37PM (#9766261)
This is a nice additional option, but I won't be cancelling my subscription. I hate ads.

What I want to see from Google Play Music (aside from a name change) is:

- Keep improving music discoverability. It has become better, but could be further improved.

- Family plan. I want to pay $15/month and give it to my wife and kid.

- Fix the strange YouTube bug, where if I hit pause on Play Music, and then start a YouTube video within a few seconds I get an error telling me I am already playing media on that device (or similar). What does YouTube have to do with Google Play Music anyway? YouTube is ad supported, Google Play isn't. There is no cross-over. This issue shouldn't be a "thing." Plus I might be watching a YouTube video muted and listening to music (yes, people do that!).

- The new interface is arguably a step backwards (just like every Google Maps update). You keep "simplifying" away functionality.

- The offline playback stuff continues to be pretty clunky to set up. If I know I am going on a road trip and will be driving out of range, actually adding that music to the device is a huge pain, and often the easiest way is just to leave the device playing music for days and let it build up a cache. Horrible.

Re:Google Play Music – free, ad-supported radio by blocke on Tuesday June 23, 2015 @02:20PM (#9766571)
"The offline playback stuff continues to be pretty clunky to set up. If I know I am going on a road trip and will be driving out of range, actually adding that music to the device is a huge pain, and often the easiest way is just to leave the device playing music for days and let it build up a cache. Horrible."

It's not obvious but the way to do this is to "pin" (aka mark as keeping for offline) playlists on the device. Create a few travel playlists, pin them on the device, put the device on wifi or change the data settings in the app, go to the web client and mass drag and drop songs onto the travel playlists. I manage about 6 GB worth of offline music this way and it works decently. Once in a while you have to go into settings and tap "Refresh Music" to get it to recognize a new playlist but I maybe do that once a month.

Re:Google Play Music – free, ad-supported radio by njovin on Tuesday June 23, 2015 @03:26PM (#9767088)
This is my favorite feature of the service (Spotify has this, as well). The best part is you can pin a playlist and it auto-updates when you add songs. When I'm going out of the country I'll create a 'Trip to XX' playlist, pin it, and then over the days/weeks leading up to the trip add things to it. The app auto-downloads as you do so.
Re:Google Play Music – free, ad-supported radio by bduerst on Tuesday June 23, 2015 @05:40PM (#9768016)
It also does it across devices! I have a crappy old smartphone w/o a sim card that I use for running, and have a running playlist pinned to it.

I can be listening at work, add a song to the playlist, and then back at home the device automatically downloads the new song over wifi for when I go running. (I'm sure spotify does this too)

Re:Google Play Music – free, ad-supported radio by _1 on Tuesday June 23, 2015 @02:02PM (#9766438)
> - Family plan. I want to pay $15/month and give it to my wife and kid.

This is what's stopping me from paying for it. I already pay for Pandora, and my wife and I are able to share that. Sharing an entire google account isn't going to happen.

Re:Google Play Music – free, ad-supported radio by AlfaWolph on Wednesday June 24, 2015 @10:13AM (#9771687)
Linking Google accounts might but you're right it has high potential to get "Netflixed" with people sharing the service amongst their friends.
Re:Google Play Music – free, ad-supported radio by AceJohnny2 on Tuesday June 23, 2015 @01:42PM (#9766294)
> What does YouTube have to do with Google Play Music anyway? YouTube is ad supported, Google Play isn't. There is no cross-over.

There is actually cross-over, whether you like it or not (most people don't). Youtube Music Key: https://www.youtube.com/musickey

http://lifehacker.com/whats-the-point-of-youtube-music-key-1...

Re:Google Play Music – free, ad-supported radio by baldfat on Tuesday June 23, 2015 @02:52PM (#9766845)
> whether you like it or not (most people don't)

I say YouTube is probably the number one way most teenagers actually listen to music. This isn't music videos mostly. It is pictures of the cover art and the music. I seriously listen to my music through YouTube in another and I am rarely disappointed in not finding the music I am looking for.

What is not to like. I can listen with the screen turned off. I use this feature to listen to one off podcast I would like to list to and the YouTube play list made by users are amazing. Also to have no ads while listening to YouTube music is great.

Re:Google Play Music – free, ad-supported radio by adrusi on Tuesday June 23, 2015 @03:17PM (#9767023)
There used to be a feature in the youtube app for android to enable background play. It was removed because now they want you to pay for it. That's not to like.

No ads is nice, but useless for anyone who is willing/able to install an ad blocker on their phone. You can promote content producers more effectively by spending the money you would drop on a subscription on buying an album, going to a show, subscribing on Twitch or becoming a patron on Gratipay anyway.

Offline access is nice, but other commentors claim it's "clunky", and if it's not especially convenient, then it doesn't give me anything I havent been able to do for the last decade with youtube downloader apps.

So really all it does is make the mobile background play a paid feature, which is obnoxious.

Re:Google Play Music – free, ad-supported radio by mikeknoop on Tuesday June 23, 2015 @06:32PM (#9768261)
Further, they started banning apps that used the YouTube API to background audio when YouTube's v3 API shipped last month.

It's very anti-user, I use it to listen to longer podcasts in the background.

Worth rooting for: http://repo.xposed.info/module/com.pyler.youtubebackgroundpl...

Re:Google Play Music – free, ad-supported radio by baldfat on Wednesday June 24, 2015 @08:32PM (#9775315)
It was never an official API it was a goo hack.

http://kaeruct.github.io/posts/how-to-use-the-youtube-js-api...

Re:Google Play Music – free, ad-supported radio by Someone1234 on Tuesday June 23, 2015 @01:45PM (#9766318)
Fair enough. But it is still a bug that even after pausing All Access, YouTube takes a complete reload to work.
Re:Google Play Music – free, ad-supported radio by pgm8705 on Tuesday June 23, 2015 @02:10PM (#9766488)
It's pretty nice to not have to deal with ads while watching live shows, music videos, etc on youtube. For me it was a welcomed addition to what I was already paying for.
Re:Google Play Music – free, ad-supported radio by blocke on Tuesday June 23, 2015 @02:23PM (#9766603)
Play Music's Youtube integration is a pointless distraction that makes me less likely to continue to pay for the service, not more.

If I want to watch music videos I'll go to the Youtube app. So damn annoying when I accidently tap the play video hover button when I really meant to swipe to the next song.

If it weren't for YouTube's popularity I'd say the integration was a sign of desperation.

Re:Google Play Music – free, ad-supported radio by spankalee on Tuesday June 23, 2015 @02:13PM (#9766514)
A family plan is so sorely needed, even more so on other the Play properties. I don't buy Play books because I can't share them. TV shows are a pain because we have to watch every episode together.
Re:Google Play Music – free, ad-supported radio by AlfaWolph on Wednesday June 24, 2015 @10:41AM (#9771887)
In addition, you can't gift things. There's been several occasions I've wanted to gift apps and games to people I know.
Re:Google Play Music – free, ad-supported radio by dfinninger on Tuesday June 23, 2015 @02:22PM (#9766594)
All of this, and I'd also love a way to pin radio stations.

Google Music keeps track of every radio station you create and listen to, but it is sorted by last played in a single list.

I have 10 radio stations that I really enjoy, but I try to not try out too many new ones in case I lose the ones I really like. It has happened a few times.

The "save queue" option is nice... but it destroys any discoverability off that station because it is now a static playlist.

Re:Google Play Music – free, ad-supported radio by blocke on Tuesday June 23, 2015 @02:24PM (#9766610)
You can pin radio stations. Unfortunately it only grabs a handful of songs at the top of the playlist. So dumb.

Edit: Radio station downloading now seems to grab at least twice the amount it used to. Which puts it firmly in the "meh" category when it comes to usefulness.

Re:Google Play Music – free, ad-supported radio by domdip on Tuesday June 23, 2015 @02:01PM (#9766416)
Yeah "Google Play Music All Access Unlimited" is a truly horrible product name (not to mention un-Googleable if you mix up even one of the words).
Re:Google Play Music – free, ad-supported radio by DiabloD3 on Wednesday June 24, 2015 @12:02AM (#9769465)
For a company that understands Google searchability very well (since they wrote the search engine itself), this has a certain kind of irony.
Re:Google Play Music – free, ad-supported radio by sliverstorm on Tuesday June 23, 2015 @03:48PM (#9767263)
What does YouTube have to do with Google Play Music anyway?

You may not have noticed if you use an adblocker, but your Google Music subscription now removes ads on music videos on YouTube (as well as the ability to save videos offline on your Android device)

Re:Google Play Music – free, ad-supported radio by on_and_off on Tuesday June 23, 2015 @02:32PM (#9766678)
>You keep "simplifying" away functionality.

Could you explain what you have lost exactly ?

>The offline playback stuff continues to be pretty clunky to set up.

What is your issue with it ? In my experience, it works fairly well.

I am genuinely curious

Re:Google Play Music – free, ad-supported radio by philtar on Tuesday June 23, 2015 @02:35PM (#9766705)
I pinned some albums to download them to my device. I paused that for a bit.

....

I don't how to make it start downloading them again.

Re:Google Play Music – free, ad-supported radio by jsolson on Tuesday June 23, 2015 @03:08PM (#9766961)
Sidebar > Settings > Manage Downloads (at least on Android).

I agree that this is sub-optimal, but I think up until recently it was actually impossible unless you started another download and tapped the notification.

Re:Google Play Music – free, ad-supported radio by on_and_off on Tuesday June 23, 2015 @05:53PM (#9768100)
This.

I sometimes start syncing an album before commuting. It stumble and stops in the metro but starts again by itself afterwards.

I am not sure what the default behavior of the app is. Probably to only download while on wifi, so it does not kill your data allocation. Again, you need to go in the settings in order to change this. Better than having angry users I guess.

Re:Google Play Music – free, ad-supported radio by kolev on Tuesday June 23, 2015 @02:12PM (#9766506)
I want to add Last.fm scrobbling - I don't understand why Apple, Amazon, and Google ignore this.
Re:Google Play Music – free, ad-supported radio by karlgrz on Tuesday June 23, 2015 @03:10PM (#9766972)
I use the last.fm app and it detects everything very well from Google Play, both from the All Access service and my own downloaded songs. Have you tried that yet?
Re:Google Play Music – free, ad-supported radio by kolev on Tuesday June 23, 2015 @03:39PM (#9767202)
I do use it, but it's not too challenging to have this natively supported.
Re:Google Play Music – free, ad-supported radio by Inversechi on Tuesday June 23, 2015 @04:12PM (#9767442)
Re:Google Play Music – free, ad-supported radio by vosper on Tuesday June 23, 2015 @05:27PM (#9767935)
I agree that the offline playback is clunky. I don't want to have to remember to pin stuff, or try to build up a cache. I just want to allocate some local storage and have most-recently-played cache of songs. If I allocate a couple of GB of storage that would be plenty of music for a road trip.
Re:Google Play Music – free, ad-supported radio by viraptor on Tuesday June 23, 2015 @09:19PM (#9768981)
Is that a lot different from what happens now? Right now if you check the "Cache during playback", you'll get the recent songs saved. Also anything that's pinned is always saved. What goes out of cache is a bit magic, but it's unlikely to be the very recent stuff.
Re:Google Play Music – free, ad-supported radio by vosper on Wednesday June 24, 2015 @02:57PM (#9773700)
I think the difference that I would like is to have the offline cache on the phone sync to my playlist history across devices. So, if I'd been listening on the web client, or another device, then I'd like my phone to download all those recently-played songs and just have them available.
Re:Google Play Music – free, ad-supported radio by bla2 on Tuesday June 23, 2015 @03:45PM (#9767237)
I agree with almost all of these, except that I like the new UI.
Re:Google Play Music – free, ad-supported radio by dabernathy89 on Tuesday June 23, 2015 @02:48PM (#9766814)
offline works great for me on Android and is pretty simple to set up. are you on iOS?