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Re:Serious localhost vulnerability found in FreeBSD by tptacek on Tuesday December 01, 2009 @01:31PM (#970304)
I'm using the OpenBSD term, since it's what I got started with in the early 90's, when I wrote the OpenBSD advisories. It's not strictly a "root" vulnerability; if you have no SUIDs except for qmail-queue, it's a qmailq vulnerability.

I'm guessing you got downmodded because nobody cares, although being wrong couldn't have helped.

Re:Serious localhost vulnerability found in FreeBSD by bengtan on Tuesday December 01, 2009 @08:46PM (#971302)
I'm not a BSD user, but /bin/ping is SUID on linux. Is it also SUID on BSD?
Re:Serious localhost vulnerability found in FreeBSD by tptacek on Tuesday December 01, 2009 @11:01PM (#971469)
First thing you do on any Unix system you run: kill all the SUIDs, and make sudo suid but only executable by group sudoers.
Re:Serious localhost vulnerability found in FreeBSD by thras on Tuesday December 01, 2009 @01:47PM (#970349)
Huh? Sorry, but to quote the advisory:

A short time ago a "local root" exploit was posted to the full-disclosure mailing list;

You don't know what you're talking about. This exploit appears to give local users root privileges, making it a local root exploit exactly as the security advisory states.

The phrase "localhost vulnerability" remains meaningless techno-babble. Localhost refers to a network address and this exploit appears to have nothing to do with that.

Re:Serious localhost vulnerability found in FreeBSD by davidw on Tuesday December 01, 2009 @01:55PM (#970373)
> You don't know what you're talking about.

I would bet pretty good money that he does:-)

Re:Serious localhost vulnerability found in FreeBSD by thras on Tuesday December 01, 2009 @02:03PM (#970396)
I'm willing to take your bet.

He has claimed that "localhost vulnerability" was the term used on the OpenBSD list in the 1990s. Why don't you try to find it there: http://emailthreads.org/list/openbsd-security-announce.en.ht...

Re:Serious localhost vulnerability found in FreeBSD by tptacek on Tuesday December 01, 2009 @02:17PM (#970450)
Ok. I'll officiate. What's the dollar amount? I recommend $100, and that the winner donate the proceeds to their preferred charity.

The bet is over when I demonstrate to you that (a) I didn't invent the term "localhost vulnerability", much as I wish I had, and (b) this vulnerability isn't strictly a "root" vulnerability. I'll withhold any further description in the interests of routing money from your bank account to a deserving charity, and I will match any dollar amount that davidw agrees to.

Re:Serious localhost vulnerability found in FreeBSD by thras on Tuesday December 01, 2009 @02:37PM (#970517)
You mean "root exploit" not "root vulnerability." The second term is again mistaken, although it gets used a lot.

Did you even read the exploit code? He's figured out a way to overwrite LD_PRELOAD environment variable for anything SUID. That means that you get to tell the binary to load libraries other than what it planned on loading. And hence run arbitrary code.

This has nothing to do with "localhost." If you'd like to give examples of people using "localhost vulnerability" in the past, go right ahead and link to them.

Re:Serious localhost vulnerability found in FreeBSD by tptacek on Tuesday December 01, 2009 @02:39PM (#970523)
Are you going to accept the bet, like you said you were? If you are, I have no desire to screw a charity out of your money by helping you with this.
Re:Serious localhost vulnerability found in FreeBSD by ErrantX on Tuesday December 01, 2009 @06:57PM (#971126)
With th best will in the world I suggest you quickly read up who tptacek is :) (hint: a security guy, and pretty damn good one)
Re:Serious localhost vulnerability found in FreeBSD by tptacek on Tuesday December 01, 2009 @01:54PM (#970370)
No, you're meaningless techno-babble.