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Re:Kaspersky Lab cybersecurity firm is hacked by x5n1 on Thursday June 11, 2015 @01:42AM (#9697826)
> than they did in exposing Russian and Chinese govt actors in the same arena.

That's the job of Western companies. Keeps everyone honest. Western companies have as much bias as anyone, they are just good at covering it up with rhetoric... and Americans are good at deluding themselves about their own bias and Nationalism which is no different from anyone else's.

> On balance, with the current regimes in those countries, I prefer the western alternative to these regimes. It's not as if they are equivalent just with a different opinion. I truly prefer my western govt's over Russia and China's.

I do too. However, no one is as clean, just, and fair as they make themselves out to be. Everyone who plays geopolitics is dirty as shit. I like my government because it treats me well enough, ask other people and they might not have the same opinions.

Re:Kaspersky Lab cybersecurity firm is hacked by mc32 on Thursday June 11, 2015 @01:56AM (#9697868)
On balance, with the current regimes in those countries, I prefer the western alternative to these regimes. It's not as if they are equivalent just with a different opinion. I truly prefer my western govt's over Russia and China's, no doubts.
Re:Kaspersky Lab cybersecurity firm is hacked by saiya-jin on Thursday June 11, 2015 @04:17AM (#9698378)
sounds like picking-of-lesser-evil discussion to me, which is still a bit sad considering topic...

what a world we got ourselves into! :)

Re:Kaspersky Lab cybersecurity firm is hacked by bakhy on Thursday June 11, 2015 @04:55AM (#9698503)
The best world yet.
Re:Kaspersky Lab cybersecurity firm is hacked by palmer_eldritch on Thursday June 11, 2015 @09:00AM (#9699381)
The worst too...
Re:Kaspersky Lab cybersecurity firm is hacked by bakhy on Thursday June 11, 2015 @01:33PM (#9701090)
I kind of agree, but in a merely technical way :) I like the oriental philosophical outlook, so basically, I would have to say, the world is simply what it is. Labelling it "good" or "bad", in an absolute-judgement kind of way, is arbitrary and useless.

But here, the topic was very specific - to say that picking the lesser evil is a bad thing is actually, I'm sorry to say, spoiled. Being able to pick at all is a luxury, which some do not have to this day. And let's not even go into all the other problems we no longer face today, at least in large parts of the world.

That's not to say we don't have a tonne of work ahead of us. We probably always will. And criticism is essential in making progress. But just saying that "the world" has gone bad is not helpful criticism, it's defeatist. Because, what can we do if it has indeed gone bad? Let's not throw the baby out with the bathwater.

Re:Kaspersky Lab cybersecurity firm is hacked by SCHiM on Thursday June 11, 2015 @04:29AM (#9698412)
<s> Of course the investigation into the Belgacom hack was just 'rhetoric'. No real action was taken, the CEO of the company that lead the investigation did not explicitly attribute the hack, just rhetoric. </s>

In all honesty, I still think that western security companies have less bias than those working in less free societies.