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Re:Two Kinds of Freedom of Speech (or Strangeloop vs. Curtis... by lexcorvus on Wednesday June 10, 2015 @04:53PM (#9695296)
the actual views and arguments

Getting the views of neoreactionaries from Noah Smith is like getting the views of Luther's 95 Theses from Pope Leo X. How about, you know, just reading Moldbug?

http://moldbuggery.blogspot.com

Re:Two Kinds of Freedom of Speech (or Strangeloop vs. Curtis... by amcastillo on Wednesday June 10, 2015 @05:00PM (#9695342)
Looks like this person edited their comment. Anyway, you're right, Noah Smith is one of the less objective filters you could seek to fairly summarize a right-of-left-of-center viewpoint.

Read Moldbug, people.

Re:Two Kinds of Freedom of Speech (or Strangeloop vs. Curtis... by davidgerard on Wednesday June 10, 2015 @05:34PM (#9695637)
Life is far too short to actually read Moldbug. The man seriously does not state his thesis until at least 1000 words in (I am not exaggerating).
Re:Two Kinds of Freedom of Speech (or Strangeloop vs. Curtis... by amcastillo on Thursday June 11, 2015 @12:47PM (#9700785)
De gustibus non est disputandum :)

Life is too short to do a lot of silly things like veg on junk TV or fart around on Twitter or read the entire Harry Potter and the Methods of Rationality all day yet I admit that I sometimes persist.

Moldbug is a strange and fascinating bird that is not immediately meant to be understood, but experienced. There really is no one else like him. For those with a taste for the antiquated charm of letters filtered for the post-post-modern generation, he writes entertaining and challenging essays that lets us peek behind the lacquered veneer of modern society to get a feel for what it is that we don't realize we have forgotten. He is certainly not for everyone, but a "fascist racist sexist anti-Christ" he is decidedly not.

Re:Two Kinds of Freedom of Speech (or Strangeloop vs. Curtis... by hga on Wednesday June 10, 2015 @04:59PM (#9695338)
tl;dr?

Seriously, any interest I've ever had in whatever he's talking about has been stymied by his lack of concision, even simple methods like the pyramid style which allows for the full treatment. When this blew up I tried reading, then skimming the Carlyle essay, couldn't make myself (and I am somewhat interested in learning about political philosophies I'm not yet familiar with, and of course the peculiar institution is a very important thing to those of us in the US). A bit like the Wheel of Time when the plot stopped.

Re:Two Kinds of Freedom of Speech (or Strangeloop vs. Curtis... by lexcorvus on Wednesday June 10, 2015 @05:11PM (#9695428)
In contrast, I devoured the full UR archives over the course of a couple weeks. In this context, his verbosity is a feature, not a bug, because it's people like me Moldbug was trying to reach.
Re:Two Kinds of Freedom of Speech (or Strangeloop vs. Curtis... by savanaly on Wednesday June 10, 2015 @05:19PM (#9695514)
I never claimed it was a wikipedia entry. Just that if you were interested in what the views expressed by neoreactionaries were, here's one source I read about it.
Re:Two Kinds of Freedom of Speech (or Strangeloop vs. Curtis... by joe_coin on Wednesday June 10, 2015 @05:59PM (#9695852)
And for those who prefer a chronological index: http://mencius.xmas.ratry.ru/
Re:Two Kinds of Freedom of Speech (or Strangeloop vs. Curtis... by lsiebert on Wednesday June 10, 2015 @05:48PM (#9695749)
I did read some. I was particularly struck by his advocating getting rid of democracy.