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Re:Malls Aren't Dying, They're Thriving by remarkEon on Monday June 08, 2015 @09:40PM (#9683616)
Minneapolis native, and frequent patron of the Mall of America in a past life, here. How are you quantifying "dying"? I was back in Minneapolis in April and the mall was just as crowded as I remember it. We didn't really do any shopping (because Amazon Prime), but we sure spent a lot of money at a great restaurant, a few rides in that Nickelodeon thing[1], and more at the Sea Life aquarium [2]. We hung around a bit more to eat ice cream and watch the Twins game in the rotunda on the giant, ~2 story screen.

All in all, it was a fun day and it had nothing to do with shopping. So I guess my point is that you might be able to show me that online is eating brick and mortar shopping stores, but that doesn't seem to be stopping folks from going to the MoA or from building an expansion[3]. Seems that larger malls are transitioning into tourist attractions, though MoA probably always was. Honestly I would never drive to the suburbs to an open air "commons" (because Amazon Prime). But I certainly would drive to MoA to check out the Apple Watch, see the sharks, and eat a really nice dinner.

[1] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nickelodeon_Universe [2] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sea_Life_Minnesota_Aquarium [3] http://www.startribune.com/ground-broken-on-325-million-mall...

Re:Malls Aren't Dying, They're Thriving by macandcheese on Monday June 08, 2015 @09:49PM (#9683648)
I was speaking to the more common 70-100 storefront mall in a typical 20 - 50,000 resident town across America.

I don't doubt you at all - but I do think MoA is certainly an anomaly, as it's almost an amusement park in terms of attractions and draw. The shift towards entertainment "destinations" is certainly interesting, but again speaks to the fall of walk-in retail centers. As you say, most of your enjoyment came from actions far removed from the traditional shopping experience most of us probably grew up with at the mall.

Re:Malls Aren't Dying, They're Thriving by calinet6 on Monday June 08, 2015 @11:53PM (#9683984)
Anecdotally, I have to agree with the post above. Been to dozens of malls in the past couple years, and they do in fact seem to be thriving.

Perhaps the indoor mall is more preferred in the northeast where I've explored most, as the cold winters and humid summers make it a preferable destination.

Then again, outdoor Santana row clones are also popping up everywhere, both in the northeast and in more temperate locales. Personally I think they're all doing quite well.

Re:Malls Aren't Dying, They're Thriving by zipwitch on Tuesday June 09, 2015 @12:29AM (#9684079)
From my purely anedotal evidence, it's both. I've spent the last 10 years in the American West and Mid-West. There are plenty of malls that are literally being torn down, are half-empty, or have low-prestige businesses (exercise and martial arts, thrift shops, even museums). At the same time, some other malls are booming, fuller than I ever remember them being as a youth.

I don't know exactly what marks or causes the split, but it's very much there to my eyes.

Re:Malls Aren't Dying, They're Thriving by toyg on Tuesday June 09, 2015 @07:04AM (#9685105)
In the UK, mega-malls are doing great whereas small ones are faltering.

I think it's because shopping is now an experience rather than a necessity: people go to mega-malls to eat out, see a movie, and have a look at shops where they may or may not actually buy anything. Large chains can then use their megamall-based shops as showrooms/customer-care contact point/"prestige" destinations. You only need one or two per city, of course, so they close smaller shops elsewhere which acted as anchors in smaller malls or retail parks.

eCommerce is increasingly centralising retail in the way IT centralised distribution 20 years ago. This is also why a lot of UK small towns are suffering (they are, in the end, primitive shopping malls).

Re:Malls Aren't Dying, They're Thriving by norea-armozel on Tuesday June 09, 2015 @02:28PM (#9687682)
Back in Wichita Kansas Town East and West malls have been in decline (the latter has been hit the hardest over the years) now that shopping centers in areas like 21st Street North and Maize have opened. It doesn't seem to be a uniform pattern across the country that malls are categorically dying, but that malls in towns like Wichita are basically dead or dying due to their location (Town East and West are located far away from the newest suburbs where as the shopping center I mentioned is less than a mile away from most of the subdivisions).