“Swift will be open source later this year”

Re:“Swift will be open source later this year” by jophde on Monday June 08, 2015 @07:21PM (#9683133)

Very true. I am starting to not see the point of Go. It's about the same performance as the JVM languages and the JVM is just as easy to deploy. On the JVM you get to choose between Clojure, Scala, Ruby, Groovy, Kotlin, and more. JVM is just as easy to deploy as a Go binary too. Personally, I plan to stick with JVM languages plus Rust.

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Re:“Swift will be open source later this year” by dschiptsov on Tuesday June 09, 2015 @08:46AM (#9685552)

Here is how to see the point of Go:

Open the rosettacode web site. Choice any algorithm you are familiar with. Place Go version and Java version. Compare the number of words and lines.

Compare the Maven hell with how Go solves the same problems.

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Re:“Swift will be open source later this year” by jophde on Tuesday June 09, 2015 @02:33PM (#9687718)

I bet my Clojure or Groovy version will be simpler. I agree Scala is super complex :). Maven does suck. Gradle wraps it and does not suck. Probably the best build tool I have ever seen.

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Re:“Swift will be open source later this year” by dragonwriter on Tuesday June 09, 2015 @09:01AM (#9685615)

So, a more succinct Java, that can't leverage the JVM ecosystem? Why is that better than Scala, which can also be more succinct than Java, but can leverage the JVM ecosystem?

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Re:“Swift will be open source later this year” by randallsquared on Tuesday June 09, 2015 @10:21AM (#9686047)

Go is enormously simpler than Scala.

(I also don't agree that the deployment story for the JVM and Go are similarly complex, but that's a different argument).

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