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Re:My first exit by clistctrl on Monday November 30, 2009 @12:49PM (#968275)
What about Microsoft puts you off?

I ask because I've chosen to use the MVC Framework, and its been great so far, I feel like choosing Microsoft products has made development faster.

Re:My first exit by bumblebird on Monday November 30, 2009 @01:30PM (#968368)
I just can't imagine a world where you can't ssh into linuxy servers and do things.

Trying to run anything on top of windows doesn't fill me with confidence. Do all windows servers still insist on having a GUI etc? I honestly don't know, but I'd be extremely worried working on a startup running things on windows.

(Note I'm really talking as consumer facing website/webapp). For b2b microsoft is probably a saner choice.

Re:My first exit by barrkel on Monday November 30, 2009 @01:45PM (#968392)
I ssh into my Windows machines all the time. And Windows servers don't insist on having a GUI - look up Server Core, the GUI is limited to a console and everything is (and must be) done with the command line.
Re:My first exit by Andys on Monday November 30, 2009 @05:26PM (#968846)
The console, hilariously, looks like someone pressed Ctrl+Alt+Del and killed explorer.exe and just left a DOS box running.

They've done a remarkable job trying to remove Windows from Windows Server, but (they admit) they are still not quite there yet - the evidence is in the volume of patches that must still be applied to Windows Server Core.

Re:My first exit by bumblebird on Monday November 30, 2009 @05:35PM (#968858)
Genuine question, as I haven't used Windows seriously for years. Does it ship with ssh out of the box yet?
Re:My first exit by barrkel on Monday November 30, 2009 @06:39PM (#968945)
The POSIX subsystem might have a sshd of some form, but I haven't looked at it in ages. But I generally never use Windows without Cygwin, it was that that I was referring to.
Re:My first exit by johns on Monday November 30, 2009 @01:40PM (#968379)
Windows Server 2008 Core runs without a UI