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Re:“A Statement with My View on Curtis Yarvin and Strange Loop” by tptacek on Sunday June 07, 2015 @06:25PM (#9676550)
That other post was not a good-faith analysis of the incident, and its denouement was a single-sentence graf that claimed every intellectual adversary of Yarvin was a communist.

I flagged this post as well, because the community interest in the norms of a single tech conference don't outweigh the the fact the issues here are toxic to the community itself. HN is terrible at discussing politics, and this is basically a story about politics.

Re:“A Statement with My View on Curtis Yarvin and Strange Loop” by twoodfin on Sunday June 07, 2015 @08:12PM (#9676814)
I'm curious what "politics" you think this discussion is about. I mean, if Yarvin were an avowed Stalinist, I hope we'd have the same arguments being made, which don't have much to do with his particular heterodoxy.

Don't security conferences attract some rather idiosyncratic characters? Why should I choose one that culls those too far outside the mainstream over the merit of their presentations?

Re:“A Statement with My View on Curtis Yarvin and Strange Loop” by tptacek on Sunday June 07, 2015 @08:23PM (#9676838)
First, no, I don't think security conferences tend to attract white supremacists who advocate for the abolition of democracy and hint at the benefits of a restoration of apartheid.

Second, security conferences --- at least the kind I'm familiar with --- are different from Strange Loop. Strange Loop speakers are selected on the basis of presenting interesting and entertaining ideas to the audience. There are a couple people who get Black Hat talks on those terms, but most Black Hat talks are accepted based on how important their technical contribution is. If you have a new EMET bypass technique, nobody really cares whether you're a closet monarchist, because they're there to see the EMET bypass, not you.

Re:“A Statement with My View on Curtis Yarvin and Strange Loop” by twoodfin on Sunday June 07, 2015 @08:37PM (#9676867)
So if Strange Loop were a conference with presenters chosen totally on technical merit, you would still prefer they dis-invite a presenter with Yarvin's racial views? I think you're arguing that it's a trade-off regardless (sure) but do you have any idea where a political line is, Left or Right, where we should start expressing disapproval when those on the wrong side are excluded?

I'll take your word for it that Yarvin is way on the far side of any such line, but I'm still pretty curious about roughly where it is these days.

Re:“A Statement with My View on Curtis Yarvin and Strange Loop” by tptacek on Sunday June 07, 2015 @08:47PM (#9676895)
I don't know how to answer your first question.

I'll leave it at this. If I was Strange Loop's organizer, what I might have written is:

I don't know exactly how to articulate where our line is on providing a stage and a microphone to people with ideas I find repellent. I've never been in a position to need to draw that line. I'm not interested in spending a lot of time surveying it further. For now, it suffices to say that wherever the line is, advocacy for apartheid and genetic predisposition to slavery crosses it.

Incidentally, the use upthread of the term "Stalinist" is telling. Yes: if Yarvin had been a Stalinist, I do think we'd be having the same discussion, Yarvin's views seeming approximately as far to the right as "Stalinism" would put him to the left.