News for hackers. Stuff that matters.
Re:Re: Proposed Statement on "HTTPS everywhere for the IETF" by perokreco on Friday June 05, 2015 @02:44AM (#9664185)
No, because you would want to keep the fact that you read something private.
Re:Re: Proposed Statement on "HTTPS everywhere for the IETF" by Confusion on Friday June 05, 2015 @03:02AM (#9664230)
Yes, and Roy's claim is that TLS doesn't provide that privacy, so is still basically useless for public content.
Re:Re: Proposed Statement on "HTTPS everywhere for the IETF" by quonn on Friday June 05, 2015 @03:42AM (#9664341)
His argument is mostly based on analysing the size of the data transferred. Let's assume HTTP/2 for the moment. You have a single encrypted channel to a particular website that contains multiple interleaved opaque streams. It's not easily possible to extract the exact size of a single request from this. Furthermore, for a typical news website, for example, there will be an huge number of pages, they are dynamic and constantly changing and they will all have a very similar size.

You do get privacy. If anyone claims otherwise, he should go and prove that it's possible and easy by providing a firesheep-like tool. It would make for a nice research paper.

Re:Re: Proposed Statement on "HTTPS everywhere for the IETF" by jrnvs on Friday June 05, 2015 @04:54AM (#9664521)
Here's an article describing how to find out what someone is watching on Google Maps by analyzing the encrypted traffic. http://blog.ioactive.com/2012/02/ssl-traffic-analysis-on-goo...
Re:Re: Proposed Statement on "HTTPS everywhere for the IETF" by thwd on Friday June 05, 2015 @03:01AM (#9664229)
Fair enough, the HTTP request path can be hidden through TLS. I'm not sure if privacy is a goal of HTTPS, though.

On the internet layer, IP packets can still be traced from origin to client. I'm probably not involved enough to formulate an educated opinion, however.