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Re:Teaching Youth to Think ‘Slow’ May Help Reduce Crime by ilaksh on Thursday June 04, 2015 @04:00PM (#9661666)
The real problem is poverty and more generally extreme inequality. Kids stealing is a symptom. Treat the disease, not the symptoms.

Part of the problem is that structural inequality is supported by primitive racist belief systems like Social Darwinism.

Re:Teaching Youth to Think ‘Slow’ May Help Reduce Crime by hammeringtime on Thursday June 04, 2015 @05:46PM (#9662350)
The real problem is poverty and more generally extreme inequality.

I don't understand how people can make statements with this when it is so at odds with the facts.

The homicide rate in Baltimore in 1911 was 5.8 per 100,000. Last year it was 37. Was Baltimore less unequal during the gilded age, long before the progressive income tax and federal welfare? No way. Obviously poverty is also way lower today.

The differences are even more stark when you compare modern Baltimore with a place like Edwardian England. Again, England in the early 1900's was massively unequal, had massive poverty problems. But it had homicide rates a tiny fraction that of modern Baltimore.

Why do the U.S. inner cities have so many more homicides than any slum in China or India?

Read the book Ghettoside or Don't Shoot. Crime happens when people can get away with it. Crime happens when cultural and legal sanctions against crime don't get enforced.

Re:Teaching Youth to Think ‘Slow’ May Help Reduce Crime by Kalium on Thursday June 04, 2015 @06:32PM (#9662622)
> I don't understand how people can make statements with this when it is so at odds with the facts.

I do understand. People have one explanation they like that fits with their politics, and anything else is to be made to support this or discredited. Think of this as a religious approach to policy.

Re:Teaching Youth to Think ‘Slow’ May Help Reduce Crime by Sone7 on Thursday June 04, 2015 @08:17PM (#9663095)
"Crime happens when cultural and legal sanctions against crime don't get enforced."

The ways poverty and extreme inequality affect culture and law outcomes are fairly profound though. Cops are loathe to arrest wealthier people on drug offenses considering the legal costs that can ensue. Put enough people in poverty together and desperate behaviour of one kind or another can become normal.

Re:Teaching Youth to Think ‘Slow’ May Help Reduce Crime by wmil on Thursday June 04, 2015 @04:21PM (#9661783)
That's not true. These kids aren't stealing necessities. It's more for amusement and status.
Re:Teaching Youth to Think ‘Slow’ May Help Reduce Crime by ilaksh on Thursday June 04, 2015 @05:29PM (#9662214)
Amusements and status are necessary. Some people are lucky enough to inherit them. Then they will use any pseudo-science or rationalization to try to legitimize the inequality.
Re:Teaching Youth to Think ‘Slow’ May Help Reduce Crime by calibraxis on Thursday June 04, 2015 @05:02PM (#9662029)
Where did the paper/article talk about stealing? It's mostly about arrests and "juvenile detention" [1]. That is, a measure of how frequently the US state imprisons people, which it does more than anyone else. And it targets an ethnic minority which it can no longer enslave.

(BTW, what's the excuse for the US sending killers across the world to steal control over people's resources? "Amusement and status" as well? Such answers lack any systematic analysis. Not to mention consistency; you could apply it to any ethnic group. Unless of course there's racist motivations...)

[1] http://www.nber.org/papers/w21178

Re:Teaching Youth to Think ‘Slow’ May Help Reduce Crime by thom on Thursday June 04, 2015 @04:33PM (#9661858)
As Ta-Nehisi Coates has pointed out succinctly and repeatedly, there's nothing wrong with black people that the complete destruction of white supremacy would not fix.
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Re:Teaching Youth to Think ‘Slow’ May Help Reduce Crime by mc32 on Thursday June 04, 2015 @04:48PM (#9661940)
I think possibly because without a protagonist-antagonist binary, you only have yourself. African blacks lack the legacy issues and come into a "clean" slate, i.e. that binary dynamic doesn't exist for them. It's certainly not a simple issue.
Re:Teaching Youth to Think ‘Slow’ May Help Reduce Crime by ismail on Thursday June 04, 2015 @05:54PM (#9662391)
Depends which parts of Africa they are from.
Re:Teaching Youth to Think ‘Slow’ May Help Reduce Crime by tcbawo on Thursday June 04, 2015 @08:11PM (#9663074)
I'm not an expert in this area, by any means. And I certainly can't speak for these people. But, I imagine on average that the people who choose/are able to immigrate here have an above average work ethic, skill set, or access to resources. There are probably many people who never have the chance to start a life here. Its not a direct comparison.