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Re:The Hacker's Diet by CuriouslyC on Thursday June 04, 2015 @10:28AM (#9659463)
This is the reddit party line, and it's just as much an oversimplification here as it is there. In actuality, people have wildly different metabolic responses to over/underfeeding, and those responses also vary depending on macronutrient composition.

What you described is a reasonable way to get a starting point, but the math almost never works out the way you described. Instead, you must track your body's response over a week or two to a very repetitive diet, then change one or two variables at a time and repeat the tracking process until you get the desired result.

Re:The Hacker's Diet by rsync on Thursday June 04, 2015 @12:16PM (#9660250)
"but the math almost never works out the way you described."

It's not the math that does or does not work. It's the psychological and mental effects of the above advice.

If person A feels physically sick and completely unable to function while in a 500 calorie daily deficit that's a very different outcome than person B who barely notices that exact same deficit.

That's what leads to this silly argument over whether the "math works" or not.

I think the rational calorie deficit/surplus calculation needs to always be accompanied with a large amount of sympathy and understanding that the psychological and mental effects of these "simple steps" can vary dramatically.

Re:The Hacker's Diet by dragonwriter on Thursday June 04, 2015 @12:27PM (#9660308)
> It's the psychological and mental effects of the above advice.

Actually, the physiological effects outside of weight loss/gain are also different.

> If person A feels physically sick and completely unable to function while in a 500 calorie daily deficit that's a very different outcome than person B who barely notices that exact same deficit.

And its probably a sign of a very different physiological response, not merely a "psychological and mental" one.

Re:The Hacker's Diet by _Wintermute on Thursday June 04, 2015 @12:12PM (#9660218)
The basal metabolic rate between individuals is far less variable than most people think. Whenever people start spouting that they have a 'slow metabolism', the effects are actually minimal.
Re:The Hacker's Diet by CuriouslyC on Thursday June 04, 2015 @12:35PM (#9660372)
The research data I've seen suggests that a standard deviation from the mean BMR is about 7.5%. That means that people with the slowest metabolisms burn only about 73% of what people with the fastest metabolisms burn at rest.

Additionally, the metabolic response to overfeeding varies greatly between individuals; some people respond to excess calories with a significant rise in body temperature and heightened energy, while others show no change in body temperature and actually get tired after eating.

I'm not saying that "slow metabolism" is a legitimate reason someone can't get fit. Only that it isn't fair to assume everyone is the same; some people DO have a much harder time losing fat and staying lean.

Re:The Hacker's Diet by brador on Thursday June 04, 2015 @01:36PM (#9660765)
The advice is universal. You're picking and choosing points you don't like to excuse yourself from the commitment.

The best thing you can do right now is sit down and make a meal plan, then go shopping for it, today, right now. Here: chicken , frozen vegetables, water. Cook it all, then eat as much of that to feeling totally full, with your choice of sauce, and you will lose weight. Guaranteed. No exercise required, no limits on how much you can eat.