Section 215 Expires For Now

Re:Section 215 Expires For Now by aburan28 on Sunday May 31, 2015 @11:20PM (#9636654)

Why do people think that surveillance is going to thwart real terrorist attacks? Terrorists are not stupid. Bin Laden stopped using his satellite phone in 1999 and the NSA did not intercept a single piece of audio intercept data from Bin Laden ever again. The 9/11 hijackers were mostly engineers and barely even touched technology. HUMINT is the only way to catch real terrorists IMO.

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Re:Section 215 Expires For Now by sliverstorm on Monday June 01, 2015 @01:03AM (#9636879)

Hypothetically speaking enough surveillance plus really advanced compute could find criminals indirectly. As a totally fictional example for illustrative purposes, recall Batman's "cell phone sonar" device.

You don't have to touch technology to leave a footprint. Your footprints are just harder to find.

Edit: I'm not saying it's a good idea, I'm just saying "you can't track terrorists who don't use technology" is false.

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Re:Section 215 Expires For Now by flycaliguy on Monday June 01, 2015 @01:29AM (#9636931)

It also indirectly enables criminality by eliminating people's ability to be anonymous sources to police or the press. Along the same lines, it grants anybody with privileged (or unauthorized) access to surveillance data the opportunity for any number of truly maniacal illegal acts.

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Re:Section 215 Expires For Now by pearjuice on Monday June 01, 2015 @01:24AM (#9636924)

But that is because 9/11 didn'really happen.

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Re:Section 215 Expires For Now by reddytowns on Monday June 01, 2015 @02:47AM (#9637062)

How so?

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