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Re:In Norway, a Prison Built on Second Chances by tomjen3 on Sunday May 31, 2015 @01:34PM (#9634845)
>Every crime is a failure of society already. There is no place for revenge or intentionally bad treatment of offenders.

That is, at the very best, an extremely simplified extreme opinion.

Victims have every right to hate their offenders and a just society should do everything they can to help the victims, including punishing the offender. I don't get why this is an extreme pov but apparently it is.

Re:In Norway, a Prison Built on Second Chances by narrowingorbits on Sunday May 31, 2015 @02:18PM (#9634985)
> Victims have every right to hate their offenders and a just society should do everything they can to help the victims...

Yes, society should do everything it can to help the victims---to help the victims to heal. Society has no imperative to help the victims to hate.

Re:In Norway, a Prison Built on Second Chances by tomjen3 on Sunday May 31, 2015 @03:23PM (#9635214)
Ah but healing requires pain be inflicted on your transgressor.
Re:In Norway, a Prison Built on Second Chances by vidarh on Sunday May 31, 2015 @05:08PM (#9635556)
I feel sad for you if that is genuinely how you feel.
Re:In Norway, a Prison Built on Second Chances by maxxxxx on Sunday May 31, 2015 @02:20PM (#9634990)
At some point you have to think about whether hatred or revenge are productive ways to help victims. Maybe there are better ways.
Re:In Norway, a Prison Built on Second Chances by JesperRavn on Sunday May 31, 2015 @02:47PM (#9635092)
Seem completely normal to me. However the people who post on articles about criminal justice on HN are not a random sample of the population. The law considers punishment to be a valid role of the justice system, even though punishment should only consist of denial of freedom, and not being raped or killed by fellow prisoners or guards.