Re:U.S. GDP Shrank in Q1 2015
by tsotha on Saturday May 30, 2015 @06:30AM
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>You are actually paying for the pensions of current retirees.
Yes, everyone understands that. But it incurs a debt I will expect to be repaid.
>By definition retirees are people who could still be working but choose not to.
Absolutely. If they paid into the pension system they should be getting a pension. If not they need to rely on their savings.
>How about the disabled and the infirm? Those between jobs?
You're changing the question a bit here. We were talking about people who can work but don't.
>The real issue you seem to have is the "I paid for it" part.
I don't see why you think this is an issue. The money comes out of my paycheck. It's money that I could certainly have saved or used for some other purpose.
I don't think it's unreasonable to expect people to provide for themselves and their families. And I don't mind helping people who can't do so for reasons beyond their control. But I have no interest in supporting people who don't want to work. I don't want to work either, but I drag my ass out of bed every morning, and I don't appreciate other people helping themselves to the fruits of my labor.
Yes, everyone understands that. But it incurs a debt I will expect to be repaid.
>By definition retirees are people who could still be working but choose not to.
Absolutely. If they paid into the pension system they should be getting a pension. If not they need to rely on their savings.
>How about the disabled and the infirm? Those between jobs?
You're changing the question a bit here. We were talking about people who can work but don't.
>The real issue you seem to have is the "I paid for it" part.
I don't see why you think this is an issue. The money comes out of my paycheck. It's money that I could certainly have saved or used for some other purpose.
I don't think it's unreasonable to expect people to provide for themselves and their families. And I don't mind helping people who can't do so for reasons beyond their control. But I have no interest in supporting people who don't want to work. I don't want to work either, but I drag my ass out of bed every morning, and I don't appreciate other people helping themselves to the fruits of my labor.