What If Steve Jobs Hadn’t Returned To Apple In 1997?

Re:What If Steve Jobs Hadn’t Returned To Apple In 1997? by Tichy on Thursday November 26, 2009 @12:26PM (#962866)

It's so funny that all Apple fanboyism is automatically voted up. Incidentally I currently use a MacBook that is less than a year old. In recent weeks I frequently had to hard reset it because it froze to an eternal spinning sand clock. Earlier this week I noticed with Disk Utility that there were errors on the disk. I tried to repair them, had to boot from DVD for that. The repair failed. After that OS X didn't boot anymore. I ended up reinstalling OS X (which was only possible after overwriting the disk with zeros, before that the installation failed), losing some data despite of Time Machine. (Incidentally the hard disk seems to be fine, so it wasn't a hardware failure - it was the OS).

Just saying, the "easier to use, no rebooting, no blue screens of deaths" are a complete marketing fabrication. Except that on OS X the death screens are not blue.

Edit: as for your edited part - I am not saying Apple PCs are bad (holding my opinion back), but the article made it out as if they are revolutionary. That is what I am arguing against.

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Re:What If Steve Jobs Hadn’t Returned To Apple In 1997? by yardie on Friday November 27, 2009 @06:25AM (#963744)

If it's less than a year old why even bother doing all that work? The disk is bad. The wipe only masks the inevitable. Formatting maps out bad sectors, but these tend to grow as time goes by.

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Re:What If Steve Jobs Hadn’t Returned To Apple In 1997? by bumblebird on Thursday November 26, 2009 @03:49PM (#963090)

Whatever. One experience doesn't make good data.

My personal experience:

Windows/dos user for 10 years Linux user for the next 10 years OSX for last 3 years or so

From my experience, the last 3 years has been my most productive, and I've spent far far far far less time messing about doing unuseful things (Trying to get wifi working, trying to work around OS issues etc).

Don't just dismiss everything as 'fanboyism', I used to do that 10 years ago. I thought Mac users were rich pretentious egotistical people who didn't actually know anything about computers.

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Re:What If Steve Jobs Hadn’t Returned To Apple In 1997? by Tichy on Thursday November 26, 2009 @04:23PM (#963116)

Linux, Windows and the whole PC world has also progressed a lot in the last 13 years, it seems a bit unfair to compare the state of now with the state 10 years ago. I am not saying Mac lovers don't love their PCs for a good reason - they have their personal reasons, so be it. All I said is that basically Macs also are just PCs.

Also, it is not really fair to compare Apple to all the other PC vendors out there. Some of them probably produce crappy machines, but others don't.

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Re:What If Steve Jobs Hadn’t Returned To Apple In 1997? by bumblebird on Thursday November 26, 2009 @05:09PM (#963165)

I was listing the OS's I use mainly. I still use windows every once in a while (When I really have to), and obviously use Linux on servers, and occasionally desktops.

One of the key things that puts Apple in a different class though is that they create the hardware AND the software. That's a big bonus and gets rid of a ton of potential hickups.

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Re:What If Steve Jobs Hadn’t Returned To Apple In 1997? by Joboo on Thursday November 26, 2009 @05:14PM (#963177)

I'm not sure why you've been downvoted... the Windows experience has improved immeasurably in the last 3 years (even XP).

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