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Re:Infection inflicts a persistent decrease in IQ: study wit... by BoardsOfCanada on Monday May 25, 2015 @05:48AM (#9599307)
The p-value (a function used for testing a statistical hypothesis) corresponding to these results was less than 0.001, indicating that the probability that the findings were due to chance alone (or that the null hypothesis is true) is less than 0.1%.

Actually, I think it means that IF the null hypothesis is true, there is only a 0.1% chance that we would get this much deviation (or more) from it due to chance. Which isn't the same thing. Still, seems like a significant result of course, but let's be correct about these things.

Re:Infection inflicts a persistent decrease in IQ: study wit... by solve on Monday May 25, 2015 @08:39AM (#9599804)
The whole science industry should follow the lead of those scientific journals who've banned p-values from their publications. P-values just lead to so much confusion and nonsense.

And that's without even considering the scientists who cheat the p-values, which is actually just a tiny part of the problem with p-values.

Re:Infection inflicts a persistent decrease in IQ: study wit... by _-__--- on Monday May 25, 2015 @09:18AM (#9599913)
I think that the outright banning of p-values is not the right way to go. The researchers that misuse them and the reviewers that apparently don't understand them are a much bigger problem than the p-value metric itself.

What's needed is a better understanding of empirical conditional statistics and the application of that understanding to the degign of experiments and the analysis of the results produced therefrom.

Re:Infection inflicts a persistent decrease in IQ: study wit... by solve on Monday May 25, 2015 @09:26AM (#9599943)
And the best way to do that is to eliminate the crutch.

Many of the more data-centric fields did away with p-values long ago in favor of far more robust approaches to establishing the value of a paper. Look at papers in the data science field. Using p-values in a paper there would get you laughed out of the industry fast.

Only problem that p-values ever solved was allowing journal reviewers to be lazier, helping scientists to be lazier, and making writing more sensational press releases easier.

Re:Infection inflicts a persistent decrease in IQ: study wit... by abandonliberty on Monday May 25, 2015 @10:44AM (#9600209)
Could you point me to a starting point for understanding the new more robust approaches?
Re:Infection inflicts a persistent decrease in IQ: study wit... by ds222 on Monday May 25, 2015 @01:04PM (#9600784)
Are there journals for data science? I am not aware of any...
Re:Infection inflicts a persistent decrease in IQ: study wit... by gwern on Monday May 25, 2015 @01:58PM (#9600976)
I left a comment on OP several days ago pointing that out; still hasn't appeared nor has it been fixed. Apparently they don't care about being correct.
Re:Infection inflicts a persistent decrease in IQ: study wit... by bandris on Monday May 25, 2015 @02:16PM (#9601056)
The correction seems to be there now.
Re:Infection inflicts a persistent decrease in IQ: study wit... by eru on Monday May 25, 2015 @06:32AM (#9599421)
axonopathy, it seems you are hell-banned for some reason..