Re:Policing, Mass Imprisonment, and the Failure of American ...
by MrBuddyCasino on Wednesday May 20, 2015 @11:07AM
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Don't assume bad intentions. I used to think that there is a strong racial component, simply because it matched my everyday experiences. Only after I started traveling more did my opinion change - I'm now pretty sure that its mostly cultural.
Your previous reply sounded a lot like those "you are not allowed to say this" stuff that does a lot of harm, because it suffocates discourse.
So thanks for posting a factual follow-up, we need more of those and less of the political correct group-think dismissals.
Re:Policing, Mass Imprisonment, and the Failure of American ...
by rmxt on Wednesday May 20, 2015 @11:17AM
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Thank you for the reminder. I genuinely am not trying to suffocate discourse and I am interested in engaging in conversation, but I have no qualms about pointing out disingenuous or deceptive pseudo-discourse when I see it. Posting a link to a study that mentions testosterone in a different medical context, and using it to justify to racist institutions is, IMO, inflammatory and dishonest to say the least.
Re:Policing, Mass Imprisonment, and the Failure of American ...
by CPLX on Wednesday May 20, 2015 @12:37PM
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It's actually easier not to engage with racist trolls[0] at all, you're not likely to change anyone's mind.
Re:Policing, Mass Imprisonment, and the Failure of American ...
by MrBuddyCasino on Wednesday May 20, 2015 @02:20PM
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Thanks for the effort of listing those, some of them definitely cross the line. However, I disagree that staying silent is always the best way to handle this - there is an audience that can still be influenced by convincing arguments, even though they might remain invisible.
Lastly, above and beyond any correlation between testosterone and crime, how do you propose to use this information to inform policy decisions? My main gripe in this fantasyland of HBD-speak is that people use this information as "scientific" grounds for enforcing their racist policy predispositions. I'd like to hear where you think you would take this testosterone point, but all too often people (and unfortunately, I get the impression that you are one of them) imply that these few studies are grounds for damning and castigating entire populations because of their perceived inferiority and incorrigibility.
[1] http://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/01918869940...
[2] http://pss.sagepub.com/content/1/3/209.short
EDIT for posterity: I would like to point out that you posted your cousin/uncle link upthread after I posted my GP comment above. I wouldn't have made as strong a comment had I seen links or sources.