The case for drinking whole milk

Re:The case for drinking whole milk by dragonwriter on Wednesday May 20, 2015 @01:27AM (#9574809)

Its absolutely about calories. Habits related to particular foods, including carbs, may be particularly common contributors to thee calorie excess (either by contributing to more calories, or by contributing to food sources which produce feelings which discourage exercise, or both) but ultimately fat gain is produced by a calorie surplus, and maintaining lots of fat.

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Re:The case for drinking whole milk by yest on Wednesday May 20, 2015 @03:54AM (#9574999)

That's a pseudo science invented by food companies to make people eat more processed food and sugar.

If you sugar spikes from carbs, insulin stores it into fat.

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Re:The case for drinking whole milk by dragonwriter on Wednesday May 20, 2015 @09:52AM (#9576275)

> That's a pseudo science invented by food companies to make people eat more processed food and sugar.

No, that you need a calorie surplus to increase stored energy, whether in the form of fat or otherwise, isn't pseudo-science (the alternative is pseudo-science of the same sort as perpetual motion machines.)

And people trying to avoid a calorie surplus are not going to eat more sugar ("processed foods" perhaps -- I mean, lots of convenient high-protein, low-sugar, shelf-stable convenient foods are fairly highly processed from their raw forms. OTOH, I don't see a real problem with them, either. All "processed foods" are not created equal.)

> If you sugar spikes from carbs, insulin stores it into fat.

Right. But if you aren't maintaining a calorie surplus, you aren't going to gain stored energy whether in the form of fat or otherwise, because you're going to be using stored energy at least as fast as you are storing it.

OTOH, excess carb intake is often associated with a feeling of lethargy which discourages activity, so in addition to the calories coming in from that activity, that eating pattern can reduce calories going out. And lots of people have metabolic issues related to carbs which make excess carb intake a health problem for other reasons, so its definitely true that there are good reasons to be aware of carb intake for most people, and for people with particular health conditions related to carbs that's even more true.

But its not true that either weight or fat gain is unrelated to calorie balance.

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Re:The case for drinking whole milk by yest on Thursday May 21, 2015 @05:14AM (#9581654)

calories is a pseudo science, you should eat more fat and less carbs

http://www.webmd.com/diet/20120626/all-calories-not-created-...

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