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Re:Crypto optimizations for Go from CloudFlare/Intel blocked... by bri3d on Monday May 18, 2015 @06:41PM (#9567250)
I thought this was going to be some sort of crazy patent issue or something to do with Intel's proprietary compilers, but instead it's a simple license incompatibility where authors are trying to transfer code (that's been BSD/Apache dual-licensed in OpenSSL) into Go, which uses its own license.
Re:Crypto optimizations for Go from CloudFlare/Intel blocked... by teraflop on Monday May 18, 2015 @06:52PM (#9567292)
More to the point, if I understand correctly: mixing these licenses is legally permissible for the Go team (or anyone else who wishes to apply to the patch) but the resulting codebase is no longer uniformly governed by Go's CLA.

Intel doesn't want to relicense their code (which would AFAICT not meaningfully change the terms of the license, but would result in its authorship being lumped together with the rest of "The Go Authors" for licensing purposes) and the Go team's legal counsel apparently has some reason for being unwilling to accept the resulting mixed-license state.

Re:Crypto optimizations for Go from CloudFlare/Intel blocked... by chimeracoder on Monday May 18, 2015 @07:26PM (#9567394)
> apparently has some reason for being unwilling to accept the resulting mixed-license state.

As someone who writes a lot of Go, I can understand the reason for this. If I reuse a function from the standard library, I don't want to have to check which headers happen to pertain to that. I'd much rather know that all Go code is covered by the same license, and therefore the same header.

For what it's worth, all Go code so far is under the same license[0]. Even the Go-specific parts of gccgo are under the same license as gc (though when distributed with gccgo, the combined package is distributed under the GPL).

[0] http://golang.org lists these as the only exceptions to the BSD licensing for code and CC-BY licensing for non-code, which basically just means the obvious Google brand-specific stuff. https://developers.google.com/site-policies#restrictions

Re:Crypto optimizations for Go from CloudFlare/Intel blocked... by mordocai on Tuesday May 19, 2015 @11:38AM (#9570907)
One of the reasons the GO legal council insists on all code being under the CLA is that if google ever wants to change the license of the go codebase they can do it without asking the contributors. If any code is not under the CLA, changing the license becomes complicated.
Re:Crypto optimizations for Go from CloudFlare/Intel blocked... by DannyBee on Tuesday May 19, 2015 @07:09PM (#9573728)
As "the legal council in question", this is actually not the problem at all :)

There are actually remarkably simpler problem than this:

For starters,

Everyone in the world, using go, would now have to reproduce two copyright notices, instead of one.

If they messed up, intel could sue them :)

Exporting that liability to the rest of the world would be irresponsible.

In any case, it's not just about mixed licenses. In a good open source project, everyone contributes on the same terms. Period.

Re:Crypto optimizations for Go from CloudFlare/Intel blocked... by mordocai on Friday May 29, 2015 @05:17PM (#9627513)
You are unlikely to read this at this point, but I was going through my old comments and just saw your reply.

In any case, I was commenting on the purpose of the CLA in general. I believe my comment still applies accurately to that.

As far as the specific issue goes, I agree that everyone should be contributing under the same license.

Re:Crypto optimizations for Go from CloudFlare/Intel blocked... by kstrauser on Monday May 18, 2015 @07:02PM (#9567324)
> Go, which uses its own license.

Citation? The license listed on their website at http://golang.org/LICENSE is is the 3-Clause BSD license (see: http://opensource.org/licenses/BSD-3-Clause) with the one exception that "THE COPYRIGHT HOLDER" was changed to "THE COPYRIGHT OWNER" in the final paragraph.

Re:Crypto optimizations for Go from CloudFlare/Intel blocked... by stock_toaster on Monday May 18, 2015 @07:45PM (#9567463)
There is also a requirement to submit a signed CLA, as seen here[1].

Additionally, on that page there is a requirement for a standard copyright header, specifying "The Go Authors" as the copyright holders.

[1]: https://golang.org/doc/contribute.html#copyright

Re:Crypto optimizations for Go from CloudFlare/Intel blocked... by jerf on Tuesday May 19, 2015 @09:32AM (#9569865)
The CLA is not a term of the license; it's a term of Google's stewardship of the code. If you fork Go and keep the BSD license, you can do as you like. Many projects of many varying license types use CLAs. The Linux kernel deliberately uses the fact it doesn't have one to ensure that nobody could ever un-GPL2 it because there's no possibility that you could ever reach every contributor for a license change.
Re:Crypto optimizations for Go from CloudFlare/Intel blocked... by hyperion2010 on Monday May 18, 2015 @06:51PM (#9567289)
Title should probably s/licensing/license because it is actually a license issue not a licensing issue.