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Re:Santa Monica council votes 7-0 to crack down on Airbnb by TeMPOraL on Wednesday May 13, 2015 @05:58PM (#9542229)
That's exactly how the "sharing economy" ended up working in practice. Skirt the law, dump externalities on third parties.
Re:Santa Monica council votes 7-0 to crack down on Airbnb by twic on Wednesday May 13, 2015 @07:23PM (#9542637)
Privatize gains, and socialize losses. A tried and tested formula!
Re:Santa Monica council votes 7-0 to crack down on Airbnb by TeMPOraL on Wednesday May 13, 2015 @09:17PM (#9542973)
I like that. Concise.
Re:Santa Monica council votes 7-0 to crack down on Airbnb by nota_bene on Thursday May 14, 2015 @04:10AM (#9543949)
Those who bear the "socialized losses" can easily band together to become a force to be reckoned with and change things:

https://www.iWouldDo.it lets you do just that, in an efficient way.

Re:Santa Monica council votes 7-0 to crack down on Airbnb by WalterSear on Wednesday May 13, 2015 @10:38PM (#9543177)
It's also why it's such a darling for the libertarian crowd.
Re:Santa Monica council votes 7-0 to crack down on Airbnb by deciplex on Thursday May 14, 2015 @12:54AM (#9543491)
In fairness to the "libertarian crowd", the smart ones usually do grok negative externalities, and come up with grandiose (if naive) schemes for internalizing them. The likely result most of the time is a community that spends 20 hours out of every day in various town hall meetings, byzantine tax and fee schedules, an enforcement arm that would have to rival the Stasi in order to actually work, and of course the whole thing is very susceptible to corruption.

But they do know what negative externalities are, at least.

Re:Santa Monica council votes 7-0 to crack down on Airbnb by microcolonel on Thursday May 14, 2015 @01:12AM (#9543532)
How exactly would the libertarian crowd get "byzantine" tax? Avoiding taxation in general seems like one of the major components of the idea.
Re:Santa Monica council votes 7-0 to crack down on Airbnb by cbd1984 on Thursday May 14, 2015 @01:36AM (#9543594)
By calling them "fees" or "voluntary contributions" or similar.

Taxes are only bad if a government extracts them at gunpoint. If a non-governmental force extracts them at... well, the gun is still there, I suppose, but hidden behind a layer of "If you don't pay, we sue, and if you don't pay after the lawsuit, the guns come out"... they're morally A-OK.

Re:Santa Monica council votes 7-0 to crack down on Airbnb by deciplex on Thursday May 14, 2015 @01:45AM (#9543614)
I only call it a "tax" as a shorthand, libertarians would not call it that. Rather they devise a system where, for example in the case of air pollution, there is no such thing as a public good, and instead of regulation and fines, potential air polluters would need to enter into a contract with the owners of the air in order to secure the right to pollute the air. And it pretty much goes downhill from there.

It's one of those things that might sometimes work okay on paper, but the trouble is that you can't actually try it out in practice due to the difficulty of assembling into a coherent community, a critical mass of people with the correct sort of deranged insanity to want to try it in the first place.

Re:Santa Monica council votes 7-0 to crack down on Airbnb by WalterSear on Friday May 15, 2015 @01:23PM (#9552090)
The solutions always involves either some kind of enforcing organization (ie - a government) or a hand wavy 'the market will provide' appeal to fervor.