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Re:Firefox 38 released by leeoniya on Tuesday May 12, 2015 @01:09PM (#9533205)
> I understand your frustration, but I think you're complaining that you didn't get an option that was never realistically on the table in the first place. Your respect for the W3C matters a lot less to them than millions of people being able to watch content produced by a billion dollar industry, which much of that industry simply isn't willing to make available without DRM-style safeguards at the present time.

I don't know why you're getting downvoted. I also gather downvotes whenevver I make a comment like this. The current crop of content producers will not produce content without some guarantees/safeguards. There was never an option to outright refuse these conditions because we would simply be left with no content at all or it would be completely locked to proprietary hardware and/or platforms.

Re:Firefox 38 released by TazeTSchnitzel on Tuesday May 12, 2015 @01:11PM (#9533240)
If their only option is to produce content without "safeguards", they'll produce it without safeguards. Content will be pirated regardless of whether browsers have DRM.
Re:Firefox 38 released by leeoniya on Tuesday May 12, 2015 @01:22PM (#9533336)
It's not a question about the reality of the piracy situation, because that hasn't changed since the VHS copy protection days. Simply having some sort of protection there - no matter how ineffective - gives them legally-effective leverage to go after those bypassing it. You cannot, as a stakeholder (content producer, actor, etc), argue in good conscience for no protection whatsoever in a commercial venture.

Yes, there is a major distribution, availability, region and device-lockdown issue to be solved. But removing all protection is just the brute-force, blanket solution that is understandably one-sided and thus unworkable.

Re:Firefox 38 released by TazeTSchnitzel on Tuesday May 12, 2015 @03:42PM (#9534338)
> Simply having some sort of protection there - no matter how ineffective - gives them legally-effective leverage to go after those bypassing it.

Use JavaScript, then.

Re:Firefox 38 released by maccard on Tuesday May 12, 2015 @02:09PM (#9533703)
But they'll always have the alternative option of providing content through iTunes/their own crappy locked down system.
Re:Firefox 38 released by Flimm on Tuesday May 12, 2015 @01:19PM (#9533307)
Pretty much everything under the sun is already being pirated, and yet content produces are producing content without any guarantees or safeguards.
Re:Firefox 38 released by Silhouette on Tuesday May 12, 2015 @06:26PM (#9535408)
Thanks for the support. I didn't actually see that post go negative -- it's well into positive territory as I write this -- but it isn't that surprising to me.

There are a lot of people in tech, and particularly in web-related tech, who are very enthusiastic, but whose admirable enthusiasm is not always matched by their realism or level of experience. Any time you challenge an idealised view that something that's being done today is inherently better than something that was done yesterday, you tend to get some resistance. This tends to go double when the reasons for the challenge are based on pragmatic concerns rather than simply trying to use the newest and shiniest tech, as in this case.

There have been many examples over the years: the old CSS-vs-table-layout debate, progressive enhancement/graceful degradation, general hostility towards any sort of plug-ins, general hostility towards DRM schemes (or charging for access to anything, for that matter), "evergreen" browsers vs. IE, A/B testing vs. just about anything else, and recently more variations involving JS or CSS frameworks than I can even count any more. And of course $deity help you if you think flat design is mostly poorly executed rubbish and the worst general trend in design and usability for a generation, because Apple, Microsoft and Google all love it so it must be good! ;-)

So whether or not it attracts some downvotes, I think it's important for someone to challenge new assumptions in these kinds of cases. That's how we figure out what really works, because it stands up to scrutiny. It's also how we shine a light on people who are "moving forward in reverse", however good their intentions or interesting their ideas, and try to steer the industry a tiny bit closer towards something more productive.