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Re:FTC Officials Back Tesla’s Right to Sell Cars Direct to C... by PopeOfNope on Tuesday May 12, 2015 @12:07AM (#9529552)
I used to work at a car dealership as a title clerk. You are right about one thing: car salesmen are desperate. They're being conned just as much as the buyers are. Their ability to support their families is tied to their commission. At the dealership I worked at, the salesmen literally drew lots to see how much of their base salary they would have to pay to the company that month in "operating costs." The theory behind that one was to keep the salesmen keen to close sales.

That was my first job, but I've had dozens since and nowhere else have I seen such unambiguously shady and downright illegal behavior occur under one roof, almost entirely by the senior management and higher. The rank and file weren't too bad. Every one of them would tell me to learn all I could there, but go back to college so I wouldn't have to do what they did for a living.

Re:FTC Officials Back Tesla’s Right to Sell Cars Direct to C... by kibibu on Tuesday May 12, 2015 @02:21AM (#9529864)
Thanks for some perspective from the other side.

It's too easy to demonize people who I'm sure don't want to be engaging in this bullshit in the first place.

I'm sure there are sales staff who get off on shafting customers, but I don't think you can say it's all of em.

Re:FTC Officials Back Tesla’s Right to Sell Cars Direct to C... by Lawtonfogle on Tuesday May 12, 2015 @03:10PM (#9534123)
"Just doing my job/following orders." does not work as an excuse for their behavior. I will not do anything illegal to a sales person, but I find the only approach that safeguards yourself is to treat them as a being lacking empathy and with a distaste for anything truthful unless it benefits them.

Too many times I had to work with friends/family who were outright lied to by those desperate to close a sale.

Re:FTC Officials Back Tesla’s Right to Sell Cars Direct to C... by basseq on Tuesday May 12, 2015 @09:18AM (#9531494)
I read Chandler Phillips' Confessions of a Car Salesman last year (originally published in 2009) and found it really interesting/telling:

http://www.edmunds.com/car-buying/confessions-of-a-car-sales...