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Re:A Java EE Startup: Filtering information with zeef.com by mikehaggard on Sunday May 10, 2015 @08:34AM (#9519714)
> I think it just lacks a new MVC module as an alternative to JSF.

In Java EE 8 such a new MVC framework is indeed coming. From the same startup the article uses as an example: https://mvc.zeef.com/manfred.riem

That page is from the MVC 1.0 spec lead (Manfred Riem). It's going to be strongly based on JAX-RS and mimicking how Spring MVC and Jersey MVC now works.

Re:A Java EE Startup: Filtering information with zeef.com by stephen on Sunday May 10, 2015 @02:19PM (#9520796)
Personally, I think "blessing" UI frameworks as JSRs ("official!") is a bad idea.

I think it leads to the UI framework (e.g. JSF in the past or this new MVC spec) "winning" and getting adopted by teams who, if they had to evaluate several competing non-blessed frameworks, would pick something better/easier/more modern, but instead go with the JSR-backed option.

Although perhaps I'm just being pessimistic. JSRs can probably be a good thing; as a programmer in the JVM ecosystem, I've just never considered "it's a JSR" as a brand of quality/something that should affect my choice, and if anything it's the opposite.

(My pessimism aside, if they're basing the spec on existing good ideas, like JPA did for Hibernate, and JSR-310 did for Joda time, that is at least a smart approach.)

Re:A Java EE Startup: Filtering information with zeef.com by eranation on Sunday May 10, 2015 @08:41AM (#9519734)
This is great news!