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Re:Without Systemd by chris_wot on Saturday May 09, 2015 @10:33AM (#9516465)
I can't see why most people would want that, with the exception of replacing journald. Why strip out device init, or even timers? Swap init is less useful, but I don't see the harm.

What is it that makes uselessd attractive? And why do you consider systemd to be bloated?

Re:Without Systemd by mercurial on Saturday May 09, 2015 @03:38PM (#9517423)
I like my init system to be an init system. However, the scope of systemd seems to expand monthly. I mean, you get an ntp client, a dhcp client, a logging system, and they apparently want to expand into containerized applications? I'd rather have a project with a smaller, well-defined scope.
Re:Without Systemd by chris_wot on Sunday May 10, 2015 @03:02AM (#9519141)
You can turn these services off :-)

http://0pointer.de/blog/projects/three-levels-of-off

Re:Without Systemd by mercurial on Monday May 11, 2015 @05:17AM (#9523495)
I know, but I still don't think they belong under the same umbrella.