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Re:Without Systemd by mbrubeck on Saturday May 09, 2015 @12:44AM (#9515524)
Doug McIlroy (the inventor of Unix pipes) included this in his description of "the Unix philosophy":

> Write programs to handle text streams, because that is a universal interface.

ESR expanded on this in the "Unix Philosophy" chapter of The Art of Unix Programming:

> Unix tradition strongly encourages writing programs that read and write simple, textual, stream-oriented, device-independent formats.

> Before devising a tricky binary format to pass data around, it's worth experimenting to see if you can make a simple textual format work and accept a little parsing overhead in return for being able to hack the data stream with general-purpose tools.

(And no, journalctl and systemd-cat don't fully replace the ability to run text-processing programs like grep, head, tail, etc. directly on the stored data.)

Re:Without Systemd by danieldk on Saturday May 09, 2015 @01:11AM (#9515598)
Well, I guess you are also against SQL databases, aren't you ;).

grep, head, tail, etc. work great when you have a small amount of logs. But if you have a production system with lots of logging data, processing plain text can become too slow and/or icky parsing-wise.

Re:Without Systemd by chris_wot on Saturday May 09, 2015 @04:03AM (#9515834)
The tool being criticised outputs as a text stream. Which can then be used by every utility you have referenced. I'm still not following what the issue is here?