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Re:Dissolve My Nobel Prize, Fast (2011) by barsonme on Wednesday May 06, 2015 @07:27PM (#9502420)
Does anybody have an idea on how long dissolving a piece of gold that long would take? The article says it's a very slow task, yet makes it seem as if Niels Bohr was able to do it in minutes (or a little longer).

E.g., "...physicist Niels Bohr has just hours, maybe minutes, to make two Nobel Prize medals disappear."

Re:Dissolve My Nobel Prize, Fast (2011) by SteveGerencser on Wednesday May 06, 2015 @11:09PM (#9503096)
We did this when I was a jeweler years ago and the process happens very quickly, it is literally minutes so I would assume that at worst they are looking a a 5 to 10 minute window to dissolve one medal. The real issue is that the gasses given off are lethal and if not done carefully in a very well ventilated location you can do serious harm to yourself and anyone nearby. They would have known this and been fine, but someone just reading the article and thinking, hey, I have gold and some acid laying around let's see what happens, could end up dead.

The gas given off is Nitric Oxide (which combines with Oxygen in the air to create Nitrogen Dioxide) and Chlorine and even a small dose can cause serious damage to your lungs if not be fatal.

Re:Dissolve My Nobel Prize, Fast (2011) by barsonme on Thursday May 07, 2015 @03:16AM (#9503686)
Very interesting, thank you for the answer.

I love how diverse HN can be. From Ph.Ds in computer science to former jewelers, there seems to be a little bit of everything.

Follow up question: would the gas have stuck around until the Nazis arrived a while (hours or less?) later? Or would their ventilation have dispersed it enough?

I remember in the science classes I took in HS the ventilation hoods pretty much removed most of the fumes, but we also never worked with anything that was particularly... pungent? My last science class was probably 5 years ago, so that's my level of understanding.

Re:Dissolve My Nobel Prize, Fast (2011) by tim333 on Thursday May 07, 2015 @05:53AM (#9504008)
Fume cupboards work pretty well. If you leave the fan running I think all the airflow is in and up the chimney. I presume Bohr would have used one.

(Just got side tracked reading about old style fume cupboards http://www.cf.ac.uk/estat/sustainability/initiatives/ )

Re:Dissolve My Nobel Prize, Fast (2011) by sjolsen on Thursday May 07, 2015 @01:41AM (#9503456)
I would imagine that anyone who just happens to have some nitric acid (or any strong acid of appreciable quantity and concentration) lying around would have the sense to at least Google the products of the reaction, if they didn't know offhand. Other than that, gold doesn't react with terribly much anyway, does it?
Re:Dissolve My Nobel Prize, Fast (2011) by corin_ on Wednesday May 06, 2015 @07:31PM (#9502440)
I think that line was written for dramatic purposes to indicate that he didn't know how long it would take for the Nazis to show up so he had to be as quick as possible. It doesn't necessarily imply that it didn't take him hours and hours. (But I've no idea what the answer to your question is.)
Re:Dissolve My Nobel Prize, Fast (2011) by dkbrk on Wednesday May 06, 2015 @07:38PM (#9502462)
Though I don't know any more details about the events that took place, there are several ways of speeding up the process. As 23kt gold is quite soft, it would be a quite straightforward process to finely divide it and thereby increase the reaction surface area. Additionally, you could (gently!) heat the solution, though at the cost of a more copious amount of nasty fumes.
Re:Dissolve My Nobel Prize, Fast (2011) by dman on Wednesday May 06, 2015 @07:37PM (#9502455)
Theres only one way to find out - win a nobel prize and dissolve it.
Re:Dissolve My Nobel Prize, Fast (2011) by dalke on Wednesday May 06, 2015 @08:24PM (#9502633)
Two ways - they are sometimes for sale.