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Re:Tesla Energy by warfangle on Friday May 01, 2015 @12:12PM (#9472447)
You ever try to put out a gasoline fire with a garden hose?
Re:Tesla Energy by dragontamer on Friday May 01, 2015 @12:39PM (#9472704)
While you are correct, you can at least snuff out a gasoline fire.

Lithium fires do not require oxygen, so your typical Class ABC fire extinguishers won't actually work on it. You need a class D (dry powder) extinguisher, which is very rare and expensive.

Re:Tesla Energy by warfangle on Friday May 01, 2015 @01:02PM (#9472892)
While true for lithium fires, a venting lithium-ion battery is not a typical lithium fire.

According to the MSDS for lithium ion batteries, fires involving them can be extinguished with a typical ABC fire extinguisher.

Lithium batteries (not the rechargeable kind) are the ones that need a class D extinguisher.

Edit:

> CO extinguishers, halon or copious quantities of water or water-based foam can be used to cool down burning Li- ion cells and batteries. Do not use for this purpose sand, dry powder or soda ash, graphite powder or fire blankets.

> Extinguishing media Use water or CO2 on burning Li-ion cells or batteries

http://www.uscg.mil/hq/cg4/cg432/docs/msds/MSDS_LiIon.pdf

Re:Tesla Energy by dragontamer on Friday May 01, 2015 @02:00PM (#9473313)
Using water on an electric fire sounds like a dumb idea to me. But yeah, the MSDS does seem to say that...
Re:Tesla Energy by warfangle on Friday May 01, 2015 @02:13PM (#9473420)
A venting lithium ion battery isn't usually an electrical fire.
Re:Tesla Energy by dragontamer on Friday May 01, 2015 @03:45PM (#9474034)
And what of all the molten wires that _were_ charging said battery?
Re:Tesla Energy by warfangle on Friday May 01, 2015 @07:26PM (#9475160)
Overcharging a battery isn't the only way to cause it to vent :)

Obviously there should be a physically separate circuit for cutting off power in the event of catastrophe. That's pretty much rule-of-thumb for large li-ion battery banks.

Re:Tesla Energy by viewer5 on Friday May 01, 2015 @12:54PM (#9472813)
> Lithium fires do not require oxygen

I thought fire is by definition a combustion reaction, meaning some kind of material reacting with oxygen. What's fire, then? (I feel like a little kid, having to ask that...)

Re:Tesla Energy by tedunangst on Friday May 01, 2015 @01:55PM (#9473266)
Generally, a fast exothermic reaction. Oxygen may be the most popular oxidant, but not the only one. Lots of stuff burns in pure chlorine gas, for instance.
Re:Tesla Energy by TeMPOraL on Friday May 01, 2015 @03:30PM (#9473951)
Some substances bundle together their oxygen source (think of rocket fuel, or napalm), so they don't need to consume it from air.
Re:Tesla Energy by CamperBob2 on Friday May 01, 2015 @05:22PM (#9474607)
It's possible for something to burn hot enough to split water molecules apart. I don't know if lithium metal qualifies, but that could be what the MSDS is referring to.