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Re:Grooveshark Shuts Down by Syrup-tan on Thursday April 30, 2015 @08:42PM (#9468639)
The site is just an image with small text, so I've transcribed it here;

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Dear music fans,

Today we are shutting down Grooveshark.

We started out nearly ten years ago with the goal of helping fans share and discover music. But despite the best of intentions, we made very serious mistakes. We failed to secure licenses from rights holders for the vast amount of music on the service.

That was wrong. We apologize. Without reservation.

As part of the settlement agreement with the major record companies, we have agreed to cease operations immediately, wipe clean all of the record companies’ copyrighted works and hand over ownership of this website, our mobile apps and intellectual property, including our patents and copyrights.

At the time of our launch, few music services provided the experience we wanted to offer - and think you deserve. Fortunately, that’s not longer the case. There are now hundreds of fan friendly, affordable services available for you to choose from, including Spotify, Deezer, Google Play, Beats Music, Rhapsody and Rdio, among many others.

If you love music and respect the artists, songwriters and everyone else who makes great music possible, use a licensed service that compensates artists and other rights holders. You can find out more about the many great services available where you live here: http://whymusicmatters.com/find-music.

It has been a privilege getting to know so many of you and enjoying music together. Thank you for being such passionate fans.

Yours in music, Your friends at Grooveshark April 30, 2015

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Source at https://denpa.moe/~syrup/grooveshark-notice.txt

Re:Grooveshark Shuts Down by 27182818284 on Thursday April 30, 2015 @11:18PM (#9469181)

    As part of the settlement agreement with the major record companies, 
    we have agreed to cease operations immediately, wipe
    clean all of the record companies’ copyrighted works and
    hand over ownership of this website, our mobile apps and
    intellectual property, including our patents and copyrights.
Yeah Grooveshark was really getting in the way of me paying for that album ($10) and song ($1.something) I paid for in the last couple of days.

Oh and that $1 song? I bought it because I heard it on one of those videos-that-is-really-just-a-still-frame-so-they-can-share-the-music for the song. Also, what is Grooveshark again? I've heard of it, but I don't think I've ever used it.

My experiences can't be atypical, can they? Was it really a threat worth shutting down and all of the legal expenses? This just hurts me because literally in the last couple of days I watched an unlicensed copy of a song, liked it, and then bought it because I could and I wanted better quality sound. The (different) album was a similar pipeline--A link on Reddit directed me to the song (in the form of a YouTube video) and I then ended up buying the album.

I can't be the only one.

Re:Grooveshark Shuts Down by shock-value on Friday May 01, 2015 @12:09AM (#9469343)
I definitely think you're in the minority.

I don't remember the last time I bought an album or song, but I use streaming music services all the time. Same goes for anyone I know. Admittedly anecdotal but then again so is your assertion.

Re:Grooveshark Shuts Down by vidarh on Friday May 01, 2015 @07:40AM (#9470670)
I find that interesting because I mostly use streaming services to find music I buy. Largely because I've yet to use a streaming service that handles intermittent connectivity well enough (you'd think that my commute from a densely populated London suburb, along one of the highest density commuter routes in Europe, in to Central London would have decent mobile data coverage, wouldn't you... But you'd be sadly mistaken) to be worth using most of the time. Also because most of them are really quite horrible at picking tracks I want to listen to at any given time overall....

I couldn't imagine relying on those services for most of my listening.

Re:Grooveshark Shuts Down by zzalpha on Friday May 01, 2015 @08:25AM (#9470823)
Largely because I've yet to use a streaming service that handles intermittent connectivity well enough

If you have an Android phone: Google Play All Access.

You can offline content to your phone as if you own the music, but you get full access to their complete library. It's pretty brilliant, IMO.

Edit: though that doesn't help you if you're looking for a radio-like service... I tend to listen to albums at a time, and discover artists through third party services (e.g., Rate Your Music) that then drive me to sample stuff on Play. So it works well for me.

Re:Grooveshark Shuts Down by vidarh on Friday May 01, 2015 @11:43AM (#9472180)
Once I've decided I like something, I tend to want to actually own it.. Play's opaqueness when it comes to telling me what's DRMd and what isn't (may very well have changed - I haven't bothered checking in a very long time, and to be honest I don't know whether they've ever had DRMd music at all, because their lack of transparency with respect to video content and ebooks mean I never bothered even looking at their music section) has kept me away from using it at all for content.

It's the discovery I find annoyingly troublesome.

Re:Grooveshark Shuts Down by jeffbr13 on Friday May 01, 2015 @09:22AM (#9471075)
Google Play's radio feature has been amazing in my experience, and way better than Spotify's. Especially for stuff which is a little bit out of the mainstream, the selection-quality is so high that I wouldn't be surprised if they were using some of their Google suggestion-fu to generate it from what tracks users have played together in the past.
Re:Grooveshark Shuts Down by zzalpha on Friday May 01, 2015 @09:37AM (#9471162)
Oh yeah, my only point is offlining/intermittent connectivity and the radio features are kind of at odds with one another... but that's not unique to Google in any way.
Re:Grooveshark Shuts Down by zzalpha on Friday May 01, 2015 @12:14PM (#9472482)
Actually, I take it back, All Access lets you download radio stations, too! I'll have to try that some time...
Re:Grooveshark Shuts Down by gibsonje on Friday May 01, 2015 @09:27AM (#9471101)
How do you buy an album or song without it being DRM-chained to a particular service? That's my problem with music. I've settled on Spotify for this reason, but I was extremely disappointed to read that I'm probably not contributing in any meaningful way to the less-than-popular artists I listen to.
Re:Grooveshark Shuts Down by eropple on Friday May 01, 2015 @09:33AM (#9471132)
Nothing I've bought on iTunes in the last...five years?...has been DRMed. It's all M4A.
Re:Grooveshark Shuts Down by neon_electro on Friday May 01, 2015 @11:17AM (#9471960)
Beatport is a great source of DRM-free (320kbps MP3 or WAV) music: https://www.beatport.com/
Re:Grooveshark Shuts Down by lmm on Friday May 01, 2015 @05:56PM (#9474773)
I get them all from Amazon music; it's all non-DRMed MP3. Like most online music has been for a while, tbh.
Re:Grooveshark Shuts Down by bigiain on Friday May 01, 2015 @03:22AM (#9469960)
An album on Tuesday, and before that on Saturday.

(But then I'm one of the people who grew up buying music, I've got ~1,200 albums on vinyl and ~5000 on CD as a testament to my music purchasing past...)

Re:Grooveshark Shuts Down by philtar on Friday May 01, 2015 @03:52AM (#9470049)
Yeah but your kind are going extinct.
Re:Grooveshark Shuts Down by bigiain on Friday May 01, 2015 @05:09AM (#9470245)
Yeah - tell me about it...
Re:Grooveshark Shuts Down by res0nat0r on Friday May 01, 2015 @12:09AM (#9469346)
Use a legit service like spotify and discover new music. I've started listening to dozens of new artists because of it.
Re:Grooveshark Shuts Down by jeena on Friday May 01, 2015 @02:56AM (#9469906)
It had the exact opposite effect for me. I used Spotify for a couple of years and basically only listened to the same playlists over and over again. Only when they forced people to use Facebook to log in I stopped paying and using their service and suddenly a whole new world oppened for me. I started using SoundCloud, Jammendo and YouTube to find new music from outside of the mainstream and never looked back.

This was four years ago, in the meantime i built up my private music library mostly with Vinyl + MP3 download codes and went all the way to mimic Spotifies technical solutions and can stream my library from a Raspberry Pi at home https://jeena.net/private-music-streaming

Re:Grooveshark Shuts Down by burriko on Friday May 01, 2015 @06:41AM (#9470511)
I just want to point out that they don't force you to use Facebook. I use Spotify without a Facebook account without any issues.
Re:Grooveshark Shuts Down by mattmanser on Friday May 01, 2015 @06:04PM (#9474810)
I listen to BBC Radio 6 for new music (mainly Lauren Laverne) and the blogged 50 radio on Google Play. When I hear something I like I just add it in google Play.

Spotify didn't stop you from finding new music, your own habits/place you were in in life did that. I went through a phase of only listening to all my existing mp3s for a few years, but the last year has been an orgy of new stuff.

I wouldn't attribute it to listening/not listening to a streaming service.

Google Play slightly annoys me at times, the app is pretty horribly designed and slow at times, but spotify was blocked on a network I regularly used and I'm used to its quirks now.

I don't buy music any more. At the moment there's simply no point with a Google Play subscription. The only band I've noticed missing is Placebo's old albums.

Re:Grooveshark Shuts Down by erglkjahlkh on Friday May 01, 2015 @06:11AM (#9470432)
Spotify is very bad for music discovery.

It has no random feature, the channels they offer are either hand crafted or based on popularity. The music selection excludes many smaller, and indie, labels. The search functionalities are very limited (the metadata is too low quality).

I wanted to love Spotify, and I really gave it a try. I just couldn't keep using it, all it did for me was to make me angry. In the end it's mostly good for listening to what the major labels think you should listen.

Re:Grooveshark Shuts Down by auxym on Friday May 01, 2015 @08:34AM (#9470855)
I have personally found Spotify's Browse>Discover feature to be be useful and worthy, I've found a lot of interesting music in there.

My use case though is that I most often go on Spotify to listen to a specific album I had in mind, either I knew already or heard of it from a friend, blog, local gig, etc. But those times (20% maybe?) I feel like trying something new, I always find something good on Discover.

I wish their UI was better though. The desktop app spawns 7 SpotifyHelper processes that each eat 40mb of RAM and the whole thing feels way slow on my 10ish year laptop. The web app uses flash, and while it consumes less ram, the playback is choppy on my pc. At least the desktop app plays fine once it's started.

Re:Grooveshark Shuts Down by hbosch on Friday May 01, 2015 @09:04AM (#9470980)
Do you ever select an artist or song and make a "Radio Station" from it? I find that to be a great way of finding new artists to enjoy.
Re:Grooveshark Shuts Down by ckozlowski on Friday May 01, 2015 @02:25PM (#9473503)
You can do the same for playlists too. Makes the seeding even broader.
Re:Grooveshark Shuts Down by timje1 on Friday May 01, 2015 @08:42AM (#9470884)
I craft a playlist of new tracks that I like and then hit 'start playlist radio' to let Spotify find me other emerging bands that sound like this.

This is a pretty solid way to discover new music, but you do need that jumping off point to enable you to say to it 'find me stuff like this'.

Re:Grooveshark Shuts Down by juliangregorian on Friday May 01, 2015 @12:02PM (#9472351)
You used to be able to use apps like Last.fm which would add random functionality, but they discontinued apps, which made me ditch Spotify.
Re:Grooveshark Shuts Down by noonespecial on Friday May 01, 2015 @12:23AM (#9469400)
"If you love music and respect the artists, songwriters and everyone else who makes great music possible, use a licensed service that compensates artists and other rights holders."

It seems so easy compensate that second group that I work harder breathing each day. That first group, it seems like I could get a message to mars easier than to send them a whole dollar.

Re:Grooveshark Shuts Down by mraison on Friday May 01, 2015 @02:54AM (#9469897)
To be fair, companies such as Bandcamp are making this easier every day. If you're an artist and want to be directly paid by your fans, it is becoming easier every day. However I agree that a big part of the industry is still very opaque (including services like Spotify, unfortunately)
Re:Grooveshark Shuts Down by Jgrubb on Friday May 01, 2015 @07:31AM (#9470643)
Buy a t-shirt. That's the most direct route to actually help them out with as few middlemen as possible.
Re:Grooveshark Shuts Down by willismichael on Friday May 01, 2015 @01:44PM (#9473178)
Can somebody verify this? I'm one who used Groove Shark to discovered music that I really like and then bought it in an effort to support the musician (thanks big music, you just took away one of your means of extracting money out of me).

I would happily wear the t-shirt if I knew that it was in fact the most direct route to actually transfer money to the musician.

Re:Grooveshark Shuts Down by Jgrubb on Friday May 01, 2015 @08:42PM (#9475381)
I was a professional musician for 15 years. After having kids, the amount of time that I would've had to spend on the road playing and selling t shirts would've far outweighed the time I would've had to be home raising them, so I started teaching myself development in the tour bus. That was 7 years ago.

My old band is still out there, selling out Red Rocks, and any of their merch that you can buy at the show has the highest margin of anything. This is true for every band from John Mayer to the Avett Brothers to your local Dead cover band.

So help me God, buy a shirt at the show or on their website.

Re:Grooveshark Shuts Down by path411 on Friday May 01, 2015 @06:18PM (#9474870)
I remember that most bands, especially small ones made most of their money off merch. Not sure how it works for larger bands though.
Re:Grooveshark Shuts Down by klunger on Friday May 01, 2015 @04:50AM (#9470193)
Yes. I have high hopes for Patreon and similar services to change this though.
Re:Grooveshark Shuts Down by vorg on Thursday April 30, 2015 @10:00PM (#9468951)
First Groovy gets its development funding pulled and hosting infrastructure shut down, now 3 months later Grooveshark does the same. It's not a good year for anything named Groov* in the startup space!
Re:Grooveshark Shuts Down by Havvy on Friday May 01, 2015 @09:29AM (#9471110)
I don't think Grooveshark counts as a startup.
Re:Grooveshark Shuts Down by vorg on Sunday May 03, 2015 @04:40PM (#9482926)
Nor does the Groovy Language, but they both started up about 10 yrs ago -- perhaps it took a decade for the Groov* startup curse to manifest!
Re:Grooveshark Shuts Down by reality_czech on Friday May 01, 2015 @03:11AM (#9469929)
... and in strange aeons, shutdown messages themselves can shutdown.
Re:Grooveshark Shuts Down by angersock on Thursday April 30, 2015 @10:59PM (#9469124)
So, how long until the record companies go after others with those patents?

I'm betting the wheels are already in motion.

Re:Grooveshark Shuts Down by ams6110 on Thursday April 30, 2015 @09:15PM (#9468769)
Should have been personally signed by the CEO, not "your friends at..."
Re:Grooveshark Shuts Down by bhouston on Thursday April 30, 2015 @09:35PM (#9468850)
It doens't sound like a letter the CEO would write -- it appears to be mostly reflective of the opinion/perspective of those that won the lawsuit and took over the site.
Re:Grooveshark Shuts Down by whistlerbrk on Thursday April 30, 2015 @11:04PM (#9469145)
Yes, I'd agree especially considering that it's an image not text.
Re:Grooveshark Shuts Down by mirithekiwi on Saturday May 02, 2015 @08:33PM (#9479201)
What is the difference, if you don't mind me asking? How does the use of an image instead of text make it seem like it's not actually from Grooveshark?
Re:Grooveshark Shuts Down by samsolomon on Friday May 01, 2015 @06:28AM (#9470478)
Wow, that's an interesting thought.

I thought it was odd that they would put up an image. Even the most novice developers could have build that page in HTML.