Re:Tesla Plans to Open Car Doors to All Hackers This Summer
by blub on Tuesday April 28, 2015 @02:07PM
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I think (some) cars actually know whether the key is inside or outside the vehicle and can't be started if it's outside.
Re:Tesla Plans to Open Car Doors to All Hackers This Summer
by zippergz on Tuesday April 28, 2015 @07:24PM
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People bring this up as an objection all the time, and I think it always comes from people who have never actually had a car with this feature. First, as mentioned earlier, every car I've had with pushbutton start will not let you start the car unless the key is INSIDE the car. Second, if you try to drive off with the key NOT in the car, they've all made an alert sound and shown a message on the display that the key isn't in the car. It's certainly possible to intentionally drive off without the key, but I don't think it's possible to do so accidentally (or if you're so inattentive that it is possible, you probably shouldn't be driving in the first place).
Re:Tesla Plans to Open Car Doors to All Hackers This Summer
by dangrossman on Tuesday April 28, 2015 @02:07PM
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> do the key fobs have an on/off switch?
Pop out the battery. You don't need the battery to use the hidden spare if you lose your key: there's a physical key hidden inside the fob to unlock the door, then a slot on the dash to stick the whole fob into to start the car. It's there so you can't be stuck unable to start your car when the fob's battery dies.
Re:Tesla Plans to Open Car Doors to All Hackers This Summer
by analyst74 on Tuesday April 28, 2015 @04:48PM
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I actually got curious and have a friend hold my key outside the car while I try to start the engine, and I couldn't. The car correctly detects that the key is not inside with me.
Also, the dashboard will always tell you if you are inside the car but key is not detected. So even if it miscalculates where the fob is and let you start the engine, that key-not-present light will be on as you drive off.
The other thing -- do the key fobs have an on/off switch? If not, you wouldn't be able to have a spare "hidden" under your car somewhere (yes this is insecure anyway, but it works for most people).