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Re:Borg: The Predecessor to Kubernetes by brendandburns on Thursday April 23, 2015 @02:12PM (#9428657)
Yeah, I think that sadly, there is going to be a little bit of an inevitable equivalent to the unix wars of the early 80s. The sooner we can reach a standard place, the better it's going to be for the container community and developers more generally.

One of the reasons that I pushed hard to get Kubernetes open sourced, is the hope that we could get out in front of this, and allow the developer community to rally around Kubernetes as an open standard, independent of any provider or corporate agenda.

Re:Borg: The Predecessor to Kubernetes by bcbroussard on Thursday April 23, 2015 @04:43PM (#9429667)
Disclosure: co-founder of Kismatic

We've spent a lot of time working with the Kubernetes community. I can only speak to our experience, but Brendan, Craig, and the rest of the team at Google have 100% lived up to the commitment of treating the Kubernetes project as truly open and independent.

Our Kubernetes dashboard was recently merged into Kubernetes [1]. We brought our own vision of a web ui to the project, and we could have gotten bogged down defending technology decisions, and philosophical nits. Instead, the response from Google, RedHat, and others in the community, was basically "Awesome! How soon can we get it in?"

All of the key players have the right approach, and that gives me confidence in the project's longevity.

[1] UI Demo video - https://www.youtube.com/watch?list=PL69nYSiGNLP2FBVvSLHpJE8_...

Re:Borg: The Predecessor to Kubernetes by caniszczyk on Thursday April 23, 2015 @02:31PM (#9428794)
"allow the developer community to rally around Kubernetes as an open standard, independent of any provider or corporate agenda"

I look forward to Kubernetes becoming an independent project outside of Google then :)

Re:Borg: The Predecessor to Kubernetes by preillyme on Thursday April 23, 2015 @04:49PM (#9429706)
I'm curious, @caniszczyk why would it need to become independant outside of Google? It's already an Apache licensed open-source project hosted on GitHub.
Re:Borg: The Predecessor to Kubernetes by caniszczyk on Friday April 24, 2015 @10:58AM (#9433754)
In essence, having diversity in ownership can help the project have a long life instead of being governed by one entity. There's a lot of risk that the main entity in charge will do things in its self interest instead of the self interest of the project (and its constituency) over the long term.

Independent ownership and proper governance will setup the project for long term success and as a small company, you should prefer it to be that way.

Re:Borg: The Predecessor to Kubernetes by preillyme on Thursday April 23, 2015 @04:47PM (#9429693)
Disclosure: co-founder of Kismatic

I'm extremely pleased that Kubernetes has been open sourced by Google. It truly seems to me that the developer community is and will remain to be able to rally around Kubernetes as an open standard both today and in the future without fear of any outside agendas; as Brendan so eloquently stated. I for one applaud Google's level of transparency when it comes to the future of the project and the overall product vision.

Re:Borg: The Predecessor to Kubernetes by sneak on Friday April 24, 2015 @08:46AM (#9432911)
I'm wondering if it was intentional or subconsciously accidental that you went with the "I, for one" construction... which is of course usually suffixed with "welcome our new [adjective] overlords".
Re:Borg: The Predecessor to Kubernetes by dragonwriter on Friday April 24, 2015 @08:49AM (#9432941)
"I, for one" was a common construction before, and remains common outside of, that text-meme.
Re:Borg: The Predecessor to Kubernetes by choppaface on Thursday April 23, 2015 @03:40PM (#9429296)
What's the largest k8s deployment you guys have observed? You're not using k8s for anything major yet, right?

Thanks for building k8s! Even if it doesn't "win" in the end, it's been an extremely useful and reliable solution for my needs.

Re:Borg: The Predecessor to Kubernetes by rjeaster on Thursday April 23, 2015 @02:52PM (#9428962)
There needs to be a compelling way to run it on AWS for this to happen.
Re:Borg: The Predecessor to Kubernetes by brendandburns on Thursday April 23, 2015 @03:06PM (#9429056)
Please check out: https://github.com/GoogleCloudPlatform/kubernetes/blob/maste...

for turn up instructions on AWS, it's as easy as:

export KUBERNETES_PROVIDER=aws; wget -q -O - https://get.k8s.io | bash

Re:Borg: The Predecessor to Kubernetes by sneak on Friday April 24, 2015 @08:47AM (#9432924)
Ugh, to think people responsible for running large infrastructure installations are still piping random webpages to their shell in 2015.

It's not just them - doing things this way makes it seem like this is in any way acceptable. It's not. Stop it.

No wonder it's so easy for TAO.

Re:Borg: The Predecessor to Kubernetes by hackerboos on Sunday April 26, 2015 @07:42AM (#9441424)
Just download the script and check it first before running it then.
Re:Borg: The Predecessor to Kubernetes by sneak on Sunday April 26, 2015 @10:49PM (#9444176)
It's not me; I don't run scripts written by people who think it's okay to exec shit from the network.

It's for the people who don't know any better and see this anti-pattern everywhere and thereby begin to think it's okay or accepted. It's not.

Re:Borg: The Predecessor to Kubernetes by pacala on Friday April 24, 2015 @10:42AM (#9433636)
What is a better alternative?
Re:Borg: The Predecessor to Kubernetes by jganetsk on Thursday April 23, 2015 @03:58PM (#9429408)
Re:Borg: The Predecessor to Kubernetes by boulos on Thursday April 23, 2015 @03:03PM (#9429033)
You mean like the work that Meteor is doing and hiring for https://www.meteor.com/jobs/core-developer-cloud-systems-eng... ?

Disclaimer: I work on Google Cloud but not Kubernetes or GKE.