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Re:Intent to deprecate: Insecure HTTP by stouset on Monday April 13, 2015 @04:58PM (#9370455)
Yes, it absolutely does. If they actually use that CA to MITM connections, it is usually detected pretty quickly, and browsers quickly revoke that CA's trust.

Even in a scenario where this doesn't happen, it elevates the required attack from a passive eavesdropping attack (which is comparatively simple to conduct en masse, and to analyze data retroactively) to an active attack (which must typically be done in a targeted, real-time fashion).

Re:Intent to deprecate: Insecure HTTP by lisper on Monday April 13, 2015 @07:29PM (#9371177)
> If they actually use that CA to MITM connections, it is usually detected pretty quickly

Really? How?

Re:Intent to deprecate: Insecure HTTP by timothya on Tuesday April 14, 2015 @01:05AM (#9372203)
Certificate pinning [0] is a common way.

[0]: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Transport_Layer_Security#Certif...

Re:Intent to deprecate: Insecure HTTP by lisper on Tuesday April 14, 2015 @02:08AM (#9372383)
Right. Because no one ever changes a certificate legitimately.
Re:Intent to deprecate: Insecure HTTP by stouset on Tuesday April 14, 2015 @12:55PM (#9375602)
Some people run TACK. Chrome also, IIRC, reports back on when certs have changed and Google can clearly see if there's widespread disagreement on what key is being served to visitors.
Re:Intent to deprecate: Insecure HTTP by lisper on Tuesday April 14, 2015 @01:07PM (#9375701)
How is that going to help? If you've been MITMd then the attacker can intercept your TACK and Google traffic too.
Re:Intent to deprecate: Insecure HTTP by stouset on Tuesday April 14, 2015 @07:46PM (#9378054)
Chrome pins the Google certs, so MITM will only work if you get the user before they've first downloaded Chrome. And then you have to ensure you only ever MITM those clients, or your attack will be detected.

And TACK literally was designed to solve this problem. If the MITM interferes with you communicating to other TACK clients, you detect their attack. If they don't, you detect their attack.