Void – A website creation tool

Re:Void – A website creation tool by jerrac on Saturday April 11, 2015 @10:51AM (#9359547)

We're deploying several tomcat apps at work. Each of them have to have apache in front to proxy from 80/443 to 8080/8443. We tried to get jcvs(or whatever it's called) working, and it did not work. Thus, deploying java apps is a pain. Seriously, do they expect me to ask my users to add the port number to the url?

We love GitLab at work as well. But a few years ago it was real pain to set up. Mainly due to having to figure out how to get the correct Ruby version installed. GitLab fixed this issue with documentation describing exactly what version to compile, and how to compile it. The fact remains, though, that I'm not using Ruby from the distro repos, and thus, if a major security issue arises, I won't get automatic updates. If it was more than one server, I'd not be happy...

I once deployed a python app. Then tried to deploy it again, and could not figure out what the heck I did the first time. I still have no idea how to do so. And I never did find a decent tutorial on the subject.

So, ultimately, I prefer PHP. You install mod_php, php, configure your vhost, and drop your files in the correct directory. Done.

As for how experienced I am, I run 50+ vmware vm's, most of which run different applications than the others. Thus, I've had to deploy many different applications over the years. PHP apps are always the easiest.

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Re:Void – A website creation tool by sytse on Saturday April 11, 2015 @06:49PM (#9361141)

You are totally right that GitLab used to be hard to install, it took about 10 pages of commands https://gitlab.com/gitlab-org/gitlab-ce/blob/master/doc/inst... Since a year we have Omnibus packages that solve that problem completely. It takes two minutes to install or update. For more information please see https://about.gitlab.com/downloads/

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Re:Void – A website creation tool by vdaniuk on Saturday April 11, 2015 @11:05AM (#9359581)

Okay, I don't know much about Java, its vast and sparsely connected ecosystem scares me and I am not going that way yet.

But how "install mod_php, php, configure your vhost, and drop your files in the correct directory" is easier than "sudo apt-get install node, drop files in the correct directory, run node app.js"?

Your example requires two distinct entities written in different languages using differerent config formats: apache server and php code to run.

Node requires node runtime that doesn't have to be configured and a node app.

Also if you are not ok with configuring apache to forward ports, why ios it ok to configure your vhosts?

PHP apps may be the easiest but deploying single server php apps it is insignificantly easier than deploying single server javascript apps.

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Re:Void – A website creation tool by lmz on Saturday April 11, 2015 @11:57AM (#9359701)

The vhost does not really need to be configured if you have just one of them. I'm sure the default apache config handles that just fine (listening on any address port 80). Also for "run node app.js" don't forget "add a script that runs 'node app.js' at server startup".

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Re:Void – A website creation tool by jerrac on Saturday April 11, 2015 @01:05PM (#9359894)

I think Kibana 4 is a node app, right? Like lmz says, you have to write a script to tell it to start at boot. I ended up using Monit for that, but if I didn't know about Monit, I'd end up having to write a custom init script. Oh, and Tomcat apps can end up like that as well...

Also, if I didn't want to configure a vhost, I don't need to. Just "apt-get install libapachemodphp(always forget the real package name...); copy app to /var/www;" Done. Apache is even automatically told to start at boot.

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